Originally posted by Dock6
reply to post by Toecutter.
Think it through, Toecutter
The majority of males do not plan to produce a child every time they go to bed with a woman
Nor do the majority of males appear prepared to financially and otherwise support their children.
Then they shouldn't be having sex! Grow up, guys.
The average male .. even those who imagine themselves to be 'decent guys' .. has left at least one illegitimate child in his wake by the time
What 'average' male???
I dated LOTS of guys before I got married and only ONE had a child from a previous marriage and he loved and took care of her.
Are you saying the woman gets pregnant and forgets to tell the man or he just knows and doesn't care, 'cause (Thank God)I haven't ever seen that in
Who are the fathers of the hoardes of homeless children in every city in the world ?
I've seen a LOT of homeless WITH their dads.
Why do so many divorced and separated males neglect and refuse to support or even see their offspring ?
Many times it's the wife who is at fault, too.
"You're not seeing your children unless you do thus and so, you creep!"
Many women have undermined a Dad's role in their children's lives ON PURPOSE.
Why not go to all the US war zones, planet-wide, and count the illegitimate, unwanted and denied children born to US military ?
Yes, that's a problem, but what role did the military play in letting prostitution rackets have free-market in 18 year old and up military
Also, when many military men get older and they KNOW they have children back in Japan,nam (or wherever) they go back to visit.
I've seen it!
People here talk about God and the Bible as if by doing so they can justify their misogynistic rantings.
I haven't seen any hateful posts about women.
But where in the Bible do they find justification for the illegitimate children they seeded in crack whores .. children born screaming because
of the drugs in their system. Children born mentally and physically handicapped to women who work in the so-called 'sex industry' -- prostitutes
who simply walk away and leave those screaming, unwanted bundles of flesh for the world at large to raise.
NO ONE can find that acceptance in the Bible.
Recreational drugs, prostitution and human degradation are FORBIDDEN in the Bible.
Even in the Old testament God told men to take good care of their wives.
Mal 2:14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt
treacherously: yet [is] she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
Polygamy was not authored by God;
plain truth about polygamy
King David and Soloman were only supposed to have ONE wife;
"When thou art come unto the land which the Eternal thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will
set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me. . . . Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away" (Deut.
17:14, 17). It is spoken of as "THIS LAW" in verses 18 and 19.
In the New Testament, Jesus said;
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Col 3:19 Husbands, love [your] wives, and be not bitter against them.
“They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the
hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.” (Matthew 19:7-8)
But NO-one wants babies like that ! So people undertake ... for PAY ... to give those children a 'home' ... an animal cage.
I know lots of people who took in menatally DE-TACHED and abused children into their home, even to the point that their lives were in danger, but,
they did it anyway.
Churches also, have homes for these children and most Christians donate to such work.
I don't know any that don't.
Open hearts and open hands.
Heart-rending commercials about 'starving children' in Africa ?
Why not support the non-commercially-exploited and starving children in the United States !
Wherever the need is....., I agree.
Or is that because the sheer amount of starving, neglected children in the United States are not good tv-commericial material ? Is it all
too embarrassing ? Are the zionist exploiters (those who take 90cents out of every dollar donated to 'starving children') aware that men in the US
would prefer to keep the fatherless/starving child issue at a distance ?
If you mean taking from the non religious, programs, maybe, but, aside from some people in Christian organizations in the past who got caught with
their hands in the till, MOST ALL the money goes to those it was intended for, from what I know.
Wild oats. So poetic huh ? Makes it sound almost nice. Biblical.
Those men should get themselves a kick in the posterior and take care of that child and the mother!
I think you'll find, at the end of the day, that God has never bothered to read the Bible. He might even add that he's never been attracted
Jesus WROTE it, He is "the Author and the Finisher of our faith".
Yet here are characters attempting with all their puny might, within an open forum, to use the Bible as justification for forcing women
generally into a life-sentence of unpaid servitude and poverty, raising children whose fathers are busy playing golf and spouting off on
I used to be a very angry young woman, who thought that the Bible was demeaning to women. Like we were cattle. Many men had treated me that way.
I thought that God was a woman, 'cause men were so stupid and selfish.
When I decided to pray to God, I asked Him, "Show me in the Bible where You love women AS MUCH AS MEN and I'll accept You."
I opened up my Bible that my mom had given me and THERE it was.
Jesus came into my life and He loves me like no one, man, woman or child can.
Sincerely, without insulting me, without throwing me out if I am not good enough or pretty enough.
I know you see the manipulation of some Christians who let money-loving preachers and fake zionist
Revelation 2:9 the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
rule over them like masters, but, some have great wisdom, not me particularly, but, the Lord helps me.
I had an abortion as a young single woman 19, it was the WORST and most animalistic thing that I ever did.
It ruined my life for a LONG time until I asked Jesus to forgive me and now, the pain and guilt are gone, but, I hate for anyone to make that
horrible act, like I did.
[edit on 25-9-2008 by Clearskies]