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Originally posted by wytworm
reply to post by A curious cat
That has to be just your opinion, what you believe.
1) Why are we operating from a framework that everything OP states is 'knowledge' or 'information' or 'truth' vs. anything that disagrees being 'opinion'? Certainly you can see the intellectual dishonesty in that.
If they are interpreted by some as being dogmatic I dont think they are being read in the spirit it was intended.
If you have a sincerely held belief do you not consider that, in your own mind to be actual knowledge?
If someone believes something, he or she thinks that it is true but may be mistaken. This is not the case with knowledge. For example, a man thinks that a particular bridge is safe enough to support him, and he attempts to cross it; unfortunately, the bridge collapses under his weight. It could be said that the man believed that the bridge was safe, but that his belief was mistaken. It would not be accurate to say that he knew that the bridge was safe, because plainly it was not. By contrast, if the bridge actually supported his weight then he would be justified in subsequently holding that he knew the bridge had been safe enough for his passage, at least at that particular time. For something to count as knowledge, it must actually be true.
You are so sure in that belief that you are absolutely convinced, therefore you know? It isn't knowledge in the accepted sense but is knowledge none the less.
In my opinion the OP may have with the enthusiasm of youth and excitement of discovery, given the impression that, "I am right and you must do what I do or fail", I honestly don't believe that was the intention or belief.
IMO the OP has shown courage and dedication to post such a thread.
Do you really require proof?
Perhaps you could show a little kindness, and tolerance of the OPs perceived flaws, maybe then you will find this thread a little less chaotic.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
It's not going to happen like that and make no mistake those alien greys are not your buddies!