Originally posted by narin
thats fair...my first OBE was accidental anywy :/

Do you actually gain any useful information from your OBE s? Or is it all blurry and not very clear where youve been, why it was and what the message meant. Has anyone ever had an OBE that made sense and changed their lives? There are of course very famous examples of this like Eckhart Tolle but in general does any good come of them? Ive had 3 in total and really I could not make head nor tail out of what was going on or what any message may be. Do we take ourselves there or are we taken by others who have the ability?

Thanks MG

I was skeptical about the idea of ascension until I started doing yoga. I wasn't really seeking anything from it, it was a gift membership from a friend. I kinda just grouped yoga together with all the new-agey stuff that I'd been hearing at that time.. As I started my classes, after a few days, this feeling of being connected and one with my surroundings overcame me,..(I know that sounds cliche) but it's true. It was like my thoughts and mind, that awareness you have in your skull, spreaded throughout my whole body. It was as if my mind was my body, completley connected. All through yoga, and even though I wasn't doing it right, and it kinda hurt at first, this still came to me. I have fallen from that state since I have not been able to practice yoga. It was a feeling I'll never forget. You won't understand until you experience it for yourself, through whatever means.

To me, ascension means many things. After reading one persons account of lifelong involvement with nordic types (involuntary I will add) and later greys, and psi development, he was given a memory before coming here, where it was apparent we were on different levels of development, and continued our growths in frequencies, or planets that were of the frequency that matched our current lessons. After many lessons, and incarnations we graduate to the next level. The nordic type he worked with was a teacher/friend from between lives, and she was on the next (what we might call the 5th density, as in pleiadians, sirians and others. Though they still have bodies, and children, yet live longer and have telepathy and many advancements. So individually, we ascend when we are ready for a new set of lessons to begin.
But theres also a message being given about the end of a cosmic cycle (mayan calendar, hopi prophecies, and other ancient peoples write of such things.) The contact that seems to happen with many with pleiadians or advanced beings from the fifth dimension that are here to help with the process, so as many ascend as possible, or survive the earth changes that are predicted. So the human race may evolve, along with the planetary evolving. Naturally, some are open to this message, and others tune it out. With a lifetime of sightings and negative involvement with our family of some kind, I've been on a search to end this and for positive help. After praying deeply about this, and the negative collusion between cartel and ets, and depopulation in store for us, I received a message, a feeling of contact, that continues to this day, off and on.
Its nothing I can prove. With my sighting, I called my children and they shared this. When they saw the triangle ufo over our house, they called me out, and we shared the sighting. How can you share a strong internal feeling of contact, with those who monitor our planet and are here to assist us, in all ways, with a planetary change (perhaps a dimensional boost for the galaxy via the cosmic serpents the Mayans speak of, coming from the our galactic center) and with all the people who need to survive both our cartels plans and any changes. A download of knowledge accompanied the feeling. This isn't a message for just the few, its about humanity. But, for those who believe in the cycle coming to a close it could be a time of a dimensional shift for all ready, for the planet to ascend.
Sharing the message to love, and to be love for others, is wonderful. Its not condescending. Different beliefs are acceptable, and no one should criticize or attempt to silence people who perceive something different to the traditional way many think. I love the positive message in this thread. Ascension can be personal, as in readiness of the soul to learn new lessons, it could be a cosmic cycle, where a new heavens and earth appear, like the bible, or the hopis, or the mayans, or many others predict. All of these ideas should be examined with the spirit of love, or asked in meditation. We're on this journey, after all, to figure it all out.

Originally posted by mystiq
I love the positive message in this thread. Ascension can be personal, as in readiness of the soul to learn new lessons, it could be a cosmic cycle, where a new heavens and earth appear, like the bible, or the hopis, or the mayans, or many others predict. All of these ideas should be examined with the spirit of love, or asked in meditation. We're on this journey, after all, to figure it all out.

Very good post mystiq.

Ive read there are 3 stages to awakening. The first is the initial awakening where we get many symptoms and strange things happening to us, this is the phase of acceptance if you like.

Then there is the second phase which is where we seem to be stuck in a cycle of trying to understand what has happened to us and how to take it further. I think I am stuck in this part. I have heard it described as the dream phase as it very difficult to move out of it.

The third is total understanding and awakening.

Does anyone else think they are stuck in the second stage of awakening? I wonder how long it goes on for and what I am to do to progress. Guess the main thing is not to become impatient. The second phase seems so quite compared to all those crazy things that happen to us when we first start to experience this awakening.

Sometimes I get glimpses of the final stage but only very short glimpses, only to return to this stage of wondering and waiting.

hmm

personal spiritual experiences tell me that we have guardian angels and other spirts who are helping each of us and all of us to ascend

greed and hate were used by the lizard groups to descend us to this earth 3rd dimension level

love ascends us

i vote for love

Its correct we are in the mist of coming into what is called a Spiritual and Galactic Ascension of all life on Earth.

You would have to be asleep not to realize whats happening.

For those who are in fear of this which are some and those who are angry about this happening on Earth its time to letgo of the fear,hate and anger that some might have .

The other area is those who want to make a joke of these area's .

This is no joke we are about to see what has been planned on a Divine Cosmic level before we were born in this current lifetime.

Why are so many people now coming together regarding 2012 Oct 14th,2008 the reason is not so much wether a ship shows up its time for Humanity to awakened to the truth that has been hidden by those in power for many years .

Their time is up and now the time for Ascending is near for every man women and child and all life forms on Planet Earth.

Anyone who wishes to deny this will happen or could happen are still sleeping.

All will be awakened before 2012 .

Its your freedom to deny this within yourself but understand that those posting messages and information on this are correct in terms of what is coming.

Its not Grey or Reps or negative beings getting ready to eat you for dinner turn off the Sci Fi Channel this is the real deal.

We are talking about Spiritual Beings of Light not the negative beings that have controlled certian situations within this time and space.

These Men and Women coming to Earth are the same as you and me the only difference is they have awakened eons ago .

Now its out turn to return to once we came thats within the Great central Sun and the higher levels of Christ Consciousness.

Its going to be a wild ride and be glad you are here now to be part of Galactic History.

[edit on 17-9-2008 by Cmdraleon]

Originally posted by spiritgirl
hmm

personal spiritual experiences tell me that we have guardian angels and other spirts who are helping each of us and all of us to ascend

greed and hate were used by the lizard groups to descend us to this earth 3rd dimension level

love ascends us

i vote for love

Yes you are right, spirits and guardians are there looking over us, helping us to make the right choice in our awakening. Like you I have recieved guidance from higher spirits, but we must be aware of spirits and alien entities posing as those in higher realms. Indeed do not align with energies sent by Lizards. They struggle to control but the more you realize they send energies of greed, hate, negativity and ego the less control they will have.

Set your soul free by feeling love, light and positivity. Allow it to ascend to where it needs to go, away from this 3D controlled realm Our souls are crying out to become one again with all that is, all that there has ever been.....pure universal love that will love all unconditionally.

So essentially the matrix really is telling our brains the chicken tastes like chicken. I can live with that, for now.