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Originally posted by akilles
especially when 3/4 of the active board is Masons,
Originally posted by infinite
i've spoken to a freemason a few weeks ago and when i said "secret society" he quickly told me that the masons are not. So i asked him what do they do for rituals,meetings,etc and he said ..."thats a secret"
sooo their not a secret society, just 90% of it is secret...errmm great logic Mr.Mason
Originally posted by TgSoe
Iis it true that Masons from the 4th degree up are involved in the black occult?
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Leveller~~
I don't know, if that is the oath taken by a freemason initiate, it sure looks a lot more secret and serious than revealing passwords and other such trivialities.
Besides this oath, is there an accompanying ceremony, with men in black garb, perhaps?
We can also assume from your comments that women are NOT allowed???
Originally posted by The Axeman
Originally posted by MOOR45
Only the European Masons receive the true third degree. This is because Asiatic members already contain the essence of the third degree in their DNA. They would need a special ritual in a lodge to obtain this symbolically.
WTF, over? Are you smoking crack? How can one "contain the essence of the third degree" in their DNA? I'm sure we would all love to hear the explanation for that statement, if for no other reason than sheer humor. Please... Enlighten us...
Sorry about the crack comment, I don't mean to be antagonistic, that just sounds really absurd to me.
Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Quote: "And ALL MEN CAN BECOME MASONS. Only the European Masons receive the true third degree. This is because Asiatic members already contain the essence of the third degree in their DNA."
- Good Call Axeman - this needs to be followed up on. All men can become Masons - but then he said only Europeans & Asians can recieve the 3rd Degree because of thier DNA. Is that not RACIST? I don't believe that this is true. Since the THIRD DEGREE is the HIGHEST DEGREE of MASONRY - It is the same all around the world were Masonry is Active. The so called
"Higer Degree's" & various "Rites" are just philisophical elaborations on the Second & Third Degree. People who haven't finished the lower degrees should not worry about the "Higher Degree's" - that is a masterfull way of throwing people off track!!!!
Originally posted by akilles
Do people who defend Freemasonry realize the impossibility of what they are doing?
Hmm, places other than Masonry that require oaths... Hell's Angels, the Triads, and the Mafia?
Originally posted by akilles
So Commanding Officer, Worshipful Master, God, its all the same, isn't it?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by akilles
So Commanding Officer, Worshipful Master, God, its all the same, isn't it?
How old are you anyway?
Originally posted by akilles
Come on, I thought we were sticking to the theory that I was kicked out of Masonry for drunk driving, or having improper thoughts about my Brothers or something.
Do you go on your knees for any man?
I don't.
Have you ever been blindfolded symbolically?
I haven't.
Not that I follow the Bible as some sort of you know, Holy Doctrine, but it says "But I say unto you, swear not at all, not by heaven, nor by earth..."
And so is the oath not taken seriously? Is this what I am to believe, is the trouble of having each Mason memorize his oaths, and terrifying him with ritual he does not understand, all for fun?
Originally posted by akilles
Not that I follow the Bible as some sort of you know, Holy Doctrine, but it says "But I say unto you, swear not at all, not by heaven, nor by earth..."
Originally posted by akilles
Come on, I thought we were sticking to the theory that I was kicked out of Masonry for drunk driving, or having improper thoughts about my Brothers or something.
Do you go on your knees for any man?
I don't.
Have you ever been blindfolded symbolically?
I haven't.
And so is the oath not taken seriously? Is this what I am to believe, is the trouble of having each Mason memorize his oaths, and terrifying him with ritual he does not understand, all for fun?
Originally posted by akilles
Guys, agree among yourselves.
Are the oaths merely symbolic, and you are all guilty of blasphemy?
Or all the oaths taken to the heart?
Because if they are taken to heart, then they break another slew of commandments, such as "Thou shalt not kill (including yourself)", and so Freemasons have themselves laid bare the hypocrisy of their order.
Originally posted by akilles
Guys, agree among yourselves.
Are the oaths merely symbolic, and you are all guilty of blasphemy?
Or all the oaths taken to the heart?
Because if they are taken to heart, then they break another slew of commandments, such as "Thou shalt not kill (including yourself)", and so Freemasons have themselves laid bare the hypocrisy of their order.
Originally posted by Helios Barca
And there you go again, mis-quoting the Bible. Its "Thou shalt not murder"
Important distinction there.