It would seem that someone other than our particular species is involved.

This doesn't mean that there isn't a god like being or technology, but that our interpretations are flawed.

Our current fiction is filled with super heroes. It just seems likely someone else has created a program just like it. Someone appears to be playing both sides of the fence.

I would be more inclined to search for the source, rather than accept what others believe or want me to. But, I'm about as put off by what seems like a demonic like atheist as I am a bible thumper who says I need religion and church. I've given up coffee and donuts, so, no thank you.

I don't hate churches or religion, I'm just tired of all the games.

I guess I could say I'm on the fence howling at the moon..... Arrooo!

[edit on 12-6-2008 by aleon1018]

Originally posted by MatrixProphet
Why are Atheists...Aetheists?

Because anyone who didn't believe in "god" had to be defined for the purpose of argument!

hello

I am a Muslim, and i think that that the bible has been altered many times in history to by people who wanted the bible to go in their favor. If someone didn't like something in the bible, they simply changed it to meet their needs. Thats why its so contradictory to most people. Why don't u guys try reading the quran. I am not trying to enforce my religion on you, but just to see how it is different from the bible. thats all.

And i heard this somewhere, that one day a guy went to a barber to get a hair cut. He and the barber started to talk about various things and then came the topic of god. The barber said that he dont believe in god. The customer asked well why not. The barber replied that if god existed then why is there so many problems and suffering in the world. hearing that the customer stayed quiet. After the haorcut the customer walked out the barber shop and was heading home. he saw a homeless person with long hair and came rushing back to the barber, and said that i think that barbers dont exist. the barber was like what do you mean, im a barber. the customer replied well the homeless person outside have long hair. If barber existed then his hair woudnt be that long. the barber replied is because he dosent come to me for a hair cut. The customer replied exactly, there is a god but people dont turn to him or come to him for guidance.

i hope that helped a lil, idk loll
much love

I dont believe Atheists exist!

Originally posted by MatrixProphet
He will show up if we let go of preconceived notions, and that can be very difficult to do.

So since you know this, emphasis on will.

What exactly is he?

Here is another quote of Einsteins:

"I maintain that the cosmic religious feeling is the strongest and noblest motive for scientific research."

I felt that many of you would appreciate that, especially since he is such a revered scientist.

Why are Christians, Christians? Why are some Christians cool and some just plain...disturbing and scary? Why can't Christians even agree amongst themselves on how to interpret the Bible? Why did they decide on the books in the Bible when there are at least a couple dozen more that have been left out?
What's up with Islam? What's up with Hinduism? What's up with Judaism?
Why is there three religions in the world that worship the same god, but can't agree on anything else? Why do people believe in anything they believe?
I don't know, do you? The only thing I do know is I'm tired of watching SOME of these people fight, fight, and fight some more with EVERYONE.

I am not an atheist ( I know some though...some are nice people, some are jerks). I am a Taoist. I became a Taoist because it made much more intelligent sense to me as well as much more emotional sense to me. I don't have gods. I don't have lotsa outdated rules (I have the Shaolin Code, the get in tune with the Tao code, and the do as ye will lest it harm another code). My life is simple and revolves around being a "good" person, causing trouble for the PTB, developing myself mentally, spiritually, and physically as far as I can ...and just enjoying life like I believe we were meant to. I don't pick religious fights with people, I don't proselytize, I don't tell people they are going to burn forever cause they like butt-sex, and I don't see myself as better than anyone else.
I realize this maybe kinda off topic in a sense, but I feel that my point is quite clear.

Now, time for some cookies. Home-made, chocolate, no-bake, oatmeal cookies to be specific. Jealous?

Originally posted by MatrixProphet


2. If we can end this debate over the validity or existence or non-existence of God, this would probably make a lot of us happier. You cannot disprove, or prove, the existence of a higher power! To believe either way requires faith. Agnostics believe that and so don’t take a stand either way. My husband calls agnostics: codependent atheists. But that is another story.

firstly, agnostics dont believe in religion or god because there isnt any proof, thats in the dictionary.

athiest dont believe in god because there isnt proof not my words. so your husband is a spazz.

I'm an atheist for many reasons. Some of these reasons are listed below, though this is only the tip of the iceberg. Also, most of these reasons are directed towards Christianity, as this is the religion I know the most about.

1) Religions base their belief on faith and emotions due to a lack of proof. Emotions are highly blinding and illogical.

2) If God created us, he created us to use logic. If we use logic, we require proof. God (having infinite wisdom) would have known this, and thus altered the way our mind works, or provided proof. Neither is true therefor, either a) God wants a percentage of us to not believe and burn in Hell or b) God does not exist. If 'a)' is true, then God is a lier, as he states in the Bible that he is a loving God.

3) A being of infinite wisdom and knowledge would not create anything, as that would be illogical. It's like saying a being that encompasses negative infinity to positive infinity creates the number 2. Why? He already encompasses all and there can be no more.


4) Many who believe in a god also say that they have "felt" their god and "can't describe it". When I was a kid, I believed there were monsters under my bed. The more I focused on them, the more they became real. I 'felt' them there. Even though I couldn't describe it in words, I knew they were there. Turns out I was wrong.

5) If any god did exist, he/she would see all the religions in the world and know that what you believe in is determined by where you live 95% of the time. If you're born in China, and the Christian God is correct, then you're screwed. If you're born in America, and Buddhism is correct, then you're screwed. This makes god a racist.

6) A belief in a god is an attempt to explain the unknown. The more we find out about our universe the less reason we have to believe in a god. To the people who lived ages ago and knew next to nothing about the universe, creating a deity was the only thing that made sense. Even if you believe in a god, you cannot deny that human psychology plays a major role in why we have so many religions today.