It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by jasonjnelson
reply to post by ColdWater
Yeah, maybe living through events like Waco have opened my eyes to some of the STUPID things that government can do. What happened here? Some uptight local judge decided that this sect was just too different for their tastes? What about the Amish? are they next?
My brother just argued with me, telling me that the group is all brainwashed, thats why there is no evidence. I told him that there never was "evidence" in the first place. This was all a crock to test their will against fringe groups. Luckily, the group had no weapons...
Originally posted by mybigunit
Originally posted by Blueangel7
It is sad that the children were taken away from their moms, but the whole sect is brainwashed. It's basically just old men that want young women, very young, like 13 or 14, etc. All of them are brainwashed, so what do you do? The women have no contact with the outside world, thank goodness that some of them got away, and reported the abuse. Someone needs to start an immediate deprogramming. What these men have done is pervert the gospel. Using the bible for their own selfish purposes, and pervert the true gospel! That is antichrist! I hope that these people can be deprogrammed, instead of another Waco incident.
Im not going to go and call you names like the next poster did but I am going to ask you one simple question. What does it mean to be deprogrammed? Its basically old men who want women? Says who? Did the courts say that? Have these men been tried and convicted? You and all of these people might be right this may be a house of rapists and pedophiles but so far it has not been proven so who are you or anyone else to say these people need to be deprogrammed. All of the "facts" the government has put out do far has come back to be false. These people are guilty of one thing from what I see so far and that is guilty of living an alternative lifestyle. One where they don't buy in to corporate America. They rely on themselves and each other. They are close knit. You may call that weird they call it family oriented.
Right now we live in a sick world full of greed and vanity and these people dont want any part of it. They want their privacy from a world that does nothing but try to screw the man next to you or get screwed by the government. They want no part of this. They are self wealthy and built their buildings by hand with hand mined stone and wood. They make their own clothes and grow their own food. Those are the facts so far. Anything else right now is hearsay and you shouldn't be quit to judge. Especially being from what I see a religious person yourself. "Let he who haven't sinned cast the first stone" Who said that?
The state filed its initial appeal Friday, arguing that Texas law gave a lower-court judge discretion on whether to remove the children.
Also on Tuesday, a judge ruled that the state can keep custody of a sect member's infant. The temporary custody agreement allows Louisa Bradshaw Jessop, 22, to live with her 2-week-old son and her two toddlers under state supervision.
The state's court filing Tuesday also said DNA testing of potential parents of the children is not yet complete and that children could be returned to sexual predators if the court doesn't rule in its favor.