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Freemasonry and Satanic Ritual Abuse

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posted on May, 2 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by jaamaan
What i like to point out is that in the past only the elite seemed to have to power to have their work published.
May have seemed that way to you, but certainly not the case. I recently had the honor of meeting Chinese photographer Lu Nan who managed to self-publish three books, one each on Catholicism in China, the state of psychiatric treatment in China, and the peasant's conditions in Tibet, all while living under the Communist Chinese government. It was inspiring to me to see someone so dedicated to his work that he managed to scrape together funds and find people willing to print it entirely on his own and outside of official channels. All this while the only photography most people were seeing (or doing) in China was state-sponsored propaganda.

But we're getting off topic.

I hate people who abuse Satanic ritual too. Knowing how Masons work, if there was some sort of Satanic ritual happening, there would probably be one old-timer in the corner clearing his throat and correcting all the other brothers who missed one word, or weren't standing in the right place.




posted on May, 2 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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I find it particularly interesting because the man "Bill Schnoebelen" claims to be an ex mason himself.


Schnoebelen .. is the worlds biggest git.

Hes a liar, a fake, a coward and a crook.

He has been a Mason, a Mormon, a Pagan of some variation and no doubt has personal friends on the planet nibiru.

He gives conspiracy theorist the bad name they have..

But hey, he got rich doing it. I never said he was stupid.



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by jaamaan
I hear what you are saying.

What i like to know is, are these criminal organisations you are speaking of have their connections to the masons.

For me the picture is not so clear yet.


If there were that connection Id be out of masonry quicker than you can say "jaaa man".

There may be some black sheep quasi-masonic lodges connected to mafiosi child-trafficking organizations...stuff like that.

But we´re talking about under-under-underground scum here and not something "dominating our culture" and "taking over the world". Its overblown by people who want to make a few bucks by scaring you.



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck



I find it particularly interesting because the man "Bill Schnoebelen" claims to be an ex mason himself.


Schnoebelen .. is the worlds biggest git.

Hes a liar, a fake, a coward and a crook.

He has been a Mason, a Mormon, a Pagan of some variation and no doubt has personal friends on the planet nibiru.


Well i have to say that when some one claims to have been a vampire and is now fighting for the good in the world that i will take tthe mans words with a lot of sceptism.



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
I recently had the honor of meeting Chinese photographer Lu Nan who managed to self-publish three books, one each on Catholicism in China, the state of psychiatric treatment in China, and the peasant's conditions in Tibet, all while living under the Communist Chinese government. It was inspiring to me to see someone so dedicated to his work that he managed to scrape together funds and find people willing to print it entirely on his own and outside of official channels.


I mean more in the time only monks and stuff where writing books lets say.



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 01:04 PM
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I suppose i am going to have a look into what Jim marrs has to say about these subjects.

If i find anything related i will post it here to hold it against the light that ATS is for me



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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I agree I would not want to be a part of an organization that has skeletons in its closet and does illegal operations under the organization. I would resign my membership immediately.

that is not the case with freemasonry. freemasonry has doe a lot of good, and I’m glad to be a part of it.



posted on May, 2 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by bushidomason
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I agree I would not want to be a part of an organization that has skeletons in its closet and does illegal operations under the organization. I would resign my membership immediately.

that is not the case with freemasonry. freemasonry has doe a lot of good, and I’m glad to be a part of it.


Thirded. I joined on the basis I mentioned about my Grandfather and in 7 years have seen nothing to challenge my rationale. But then again, I guess we're what one poster earlier referred to as.......now what was that earlier epithet with the vaguely racist overtones?.......Oh yeah! Porch Masons. It astonishes me that there's oh-so-many with no personal experience of regular Masonry who feel themselves better versed in it than Masons who're in-Lodge bi-monthly and have been so for a number of years.

Sorta flies in the face of logic in my book



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 07:50 AM
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"What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face."
- Former CIA director and Cercle member William Colby giving advice to his friend senator John DeCamp, urging him to quit his investigations into the Franklin child abuse affair and to write a book about his experiences (The Franklin Coverup, 2nd edition, foreword).
www.pehi.eu...


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The problem with the above theory, of course, is that it's impossible for the mafia and a handful of mid- to higher level officials to hide their involvement in all these dirty schemes. Highest level cover in combination with the cooperation of the press is necessary to facilitate a cover up of this magnitude. And coincidentally, with names as Baron de Bonvoisin, Paul Vanden Boeynants, Etienne Davignon and Maurice Lippens we have alleged abusers with endless connections in intelligence and covert operations, the judiciary, law enforcement, regular politics and the globalist elite. Within Belgium several of the most senior judges, like Melchior Wathelet and Jean Depretre (not counting Van Espen), were named as abusers, and coincidentally they played crucial roles in earlier affairs where cover ups and manipulations had been going on, like the Pink Ballets and the Gang of Nijvel.
www.pehi.eu...


A very interesting article.
There seems to be a lot of Circumstantial evidence pointing into the direction of organised ritual abuse.
In many of these cases there seems to be a cover up that involves the highest level of people in power.
Many times these people seem to be connected to secret societies like the masons.



posted on Oct, 11 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by christiansoldier
Well, I worked as a psychotherapist for 15 years and in all that time, I never encountered one victim of Satanic Ritual abuse. I worked with the most wounded women there are - it was a program for recovery from substance abuse, which one would think is more prone to SR abuse due to the need for survivors to cover up their pain. I never knew any therapists who ever had anyone who was a survivor of SR, except for one therapist and she didn't know what she was dealing with, just that her client underwent alot of weirdness. But it was never proved that it was SR abuse.
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I'm just curious, how exactly did those conversations come up? I know you didn't say anything about names but still, is it really appropriate for psychologists to be talking about other peoples problems and there experiences with a patient? At least without said patient knowing?

It makes me question your entire post, for one you are already arguing on anecdotal evidence, but on top of that you bring in other peoples experiences, experiences that personally I don't think you should know anything about. Makes me question the professionalism of both you and the other "professionals" you have apparently spoken with.



posted on Oct, 12 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by MCJustJ
I'm just curious, how exactly did those conversations come up?
Considering Christiansoldier last visited ATS on May 10, 2008, don't go holding your breath waiting for a reply.






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