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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Honour killing is NOT a religious thing.
This man deserves to get beaten up right about now.
BTW, why all the references to Americans and Bush? This was a BRITISH soldier. Airstrip One hasn’t joined the US quite yet.
said Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police. 'You are in a Muslim society and women should live under RELIGIOUS laws.'
Originally posted by Kr0n0s
Anyway, I always find it a little funny that when something like this happens in a Muslim community anywhere in the world or a Muslim country, there will ALWAYS be someone that says that its not a religious thing.
Soo why dont we here this happening in a Christian or Jewish based culture, country or community?
Originally posted by poet1b
This type of evil is right up there with the NAZI's.
Originally posted by cavscout
reply to post by TimeTracker
Oh, I didnt know the Iraqi girl was pregnant!
Originally posted by cavscout
reply to post by spacedoubt
One being instead of actively murdering their daughter in a fit of rage over her disobedience, the parents in the article you linked to actively prayed for the wellbeing of their daughter, hoping she would recover and get well. Agree with their methods or not you must see the difference between actively seeking to harm and actively (although ineffectively) seeking to help.
Another difference is that in Iraq this man was within the law and his murder was condoned by the local police, who released and defended him, blaming it on the girl for not following the law. In Wisconsin, the parents are facing 25 years in prison!
How in the world can you claim the two incidences are even remotely alike other than the death of a daughter? Do you draw your correlation because you perceive both deaths to be caused by religion? If so, you would do well to consider that the death of the girl in Iraq was most likely NOT religious in nature! The father got angry with his daughter refusing to listen and had a temper tantrum and killed her. As the father of a teenage daughter, I can tell you that I have been so mad I could have just about strangled her a few times. The difference is that the Iraqi man DID strangle her, and has the law to back him up.
He can blame it on religion and “honor” all he wants but at the end of the day it was just uncontrolled rage and MURDER as opposed to possible ignorance or stupidity in the case in Wisconsin.
The United Nations Population Fund estimates that the annual worldwide total of honor-killing victims may be as high as 5,000 women
One example is the current trend in the Iraqi city of Basra, where authorities report that around 15 female corpses are discovered monthly; the victims are believed to have been killed by groups who seek to enforce sanctioned behavior on women.
An honor killing or honour killing is generally a punitive murder, committed by members of a family against a female member of their family whom the family and/or wider community believes to have brought dishonor upon the family. A woman is usually targeted for: refusing an arranged marriage, being the victim of a sexual assault, seeking a divorce — even from an abusive husband — or committing adultery. These killings result from the perception that any behavior of a woman that "dishonors" her family is justification for a killing that would otherwise be deemed murder.
UNICEF has reported that in India, more than 5,000 brides are killed annually because their marriage dowries are considered insufficient. Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch, says that these killings are similar to the killings in countries where Islam is practiced, because they have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable.