posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 12:40 AM
I have just finished reading the entire thread from start to finish in one sitting. Ouch!
As someone who also has spent days/nights out in the field there (not at that particular spot, though), I feel it is good to share info such as this.
If the camos are becoming more intrusive/aggresive, I don't care if armchair flamers/babblers get bent out of shape and call you a liar....I want to
know about it.
While a detail or two of it arouses suspicion, that is true of many interesting true stories, especially regarding something abnormal. Rather declare
myself a 100% believer/disbeliever right away, let me just bring up some facts and thoughts which I haven't seen mentioned in this thread, as well as
add my $0.02 on other points.
1. Anyone claiming that camp intrusions/searches by camos NEVER happen outside the Area 51 border, don't know their history. I even recall reading
in a respected book, an incident of the author's campsite being invaded by the camos while he slept. If not for his guide (Glenn Campbell IIRC, on
Freedom Ridge?) insisting that the camos not search their bags, he would have allowed it due to their imposing nature and being suddenly awakened with
a flashlight in the eyes. So while they normally keep their distance from campers outside the border, this is not always true.
2. Behavior when confronted with potentially lethal threats, is surprisingly unpredictable and varied. Reasoning, adrenalin, and survival instinct
all contribute to a course of action, so it is difficult for anyone else to pass valid judgment on a course of action taken in the moment, without
being there to feel the full sensory and instinctual inputs of the real event.
3. I empathize with the difficulty of being in a spot like that with a girlfriend present, for two reasons. First, the added stress and complexity
of having to consider her safety also. Second, the impossibility of controlling what she says/does and how that complicates the situation. One time,
while I was driving to get my car inspected, with an expired inspection sticker, my GF yelled out, "Watch out for that cop, he might see your sticker
is expired", with her window open right as we pulled up to the stop sign where he was standing next to his cruiser. Luckily the guy just laughed and
shook his head. Maybe if you'd been alone, you wouldn't have discussed the video with her, and they wouldn't have known to come get it, etc.
4. To my taste, I wouldn't leave a camera recording in the tent on the off chance of catching an intruder on it, except maybe as a trap while I was
nearby and in physical control of the situation, or with a camera I considered disposable. Vs the camos, I would never consider myself in physical
control of the situation. I'm fond of cameras and money, but I know that not everyone is.
5. I'm very familiar with semi-auto pistols, other guns not as much. While a pistol like the Govt Model .45 can be kept "locked and cocked" with
a round in the chamber and only needing the safety released, that's a pretty high state of readiness for a gun when you can see the threat
approaching miles away. Cycling the slide on a .45 or a higher capacity 9mm to load a round does make quite an impressive noise, not just a click.
So maybe you heard a pistol with an empty chamber and loaded clip, having the slide cycled to load a round.
6. I'm a camera guy, and there is nothing technically implausible regarding the camera AFAIK.
7. Your camera model came out in early 2008 (for $360+), which surprised me. I'd been expecting it to be older/worthless, essentially disposable.
Maybe you're wealthy, or didn't mind the risk of losing it, or didn't mind the chance to replace it with a different/better one if lost?
8. If your campsite was bugged, did you do/say anything to tick off the camos, other than viewing the video?