reply to post by emeessa
I am not questioning the Holocaust. I've been to Stutthof, and have grown up with stories from ww2 as living very close to Germany and Poland. The
only reason Sweden was untouched was that we played mindgames with both sides therefor we never was conquerd nor attacked.
Overall info about Isreal VS palestina that Might get my point out a little more;
year 60 after Christ, the Romans conquered "Israel" and proclaimed it to be "Palestina. As Isreal/Palestina are located vary strategicly it has
shifted rulers through time, and as it's not only materially very strategicly located it also happens to be where three big religions claim to have
their "sacred grounds". It's a moshpit of trouble so to speak.
1517 was the palestinian/israeli land a part of the Osmanian Kingdom (Turkey). During ww1, when turkey was allied (might be the wrong word) with the
centralpowers, Brittania wanted to gain arabic support against the turks, and therefor promised that after the war they'd build a free
"greatarabic" state. Brittania did add tho that the palestinian country west of Jordan as well as parts of Libanon was nothing that this propsal
included and would not be a part of "the great arabic state".
In the Balfourdeklaration from 1917 the British foreign minister declared that the goverment wanted to create a jewish nationalhome in Palestina. The
reason to this was the growin sionism (surfacing during 1800) a movement working for the return of the jews into Palestina. (Now, DO remember that
after 60 a.c. There where NO Israel) This propocal - just as the one to the arabs - was only becourse Britania was "supportfishing" for the war.
During the war Palestina was conquered by Great Brittain and Turkey had to back down, thus leaving Great Brittain to it's task to put the
Balfourdeclaration into practise.
Brittain splitted it - Eastside of the Jordan, named Transjordanian. And on the west side (today; Gaza, Israel and Westbank) they tried to make jews
and arabs live side by side.
Teh arabic, and muslim, leaders Didn't realy supptor this idea and with the help of fanatism there where some Wobbly times.
And now we're at the ww2! To 1945 the jewish population in Palestina/Israel increased from about 60 000 to 600 000. The arabic population did also
grow during this time, but anyway went from 90% of the population to mere 2/3.
Great Brittain left Palestina/Israel in the hands of newly founded UN to solve the mess they'd started. UNSCOP came up with the solution that there
where to be two separated states (One arabic and one Jewish) and that Jerusalem would be ruled internationally.
Great Brittain proclared that the 15 may -48 wuold be the day when palestinians would leave the country. And that very first day Egypt, Iraq, Syria,
Transjordania (Jordanien) and Lebanon attacked in the "Palestinianwar". The man set on being the negotiator in this war was Folke Bernadotte.
(Google his name) Both sides had their mind set on taking Jerusalem which was supposedly "international". The "old town" was in arabic hands
untill the sixdaywar. Mr. Bernadotte worked and at some points he did get a "peace" - but got murdered by jews for working "to much for arabic
For the arabic inhabitans this Was an occupation that took both psycological and fysical actions against them. 74% feld to Gaza. The mere word
"Palestinian" turned tabu, and still 50 years later a lot of the exilpalestanians ware waiting in refugecamps on a chanse to turn back home.
So now, tell me, according to UN Jerusalem are supposted to be under "internationall ruling" - it was All a blurr from Great Brittain to start with.
And what right do a people hold on a land that haven't been theirs for about 2000 years?
The western world messed up, innocent people are still peying for it. We're the ones who should be held responsible.