Originally posted by weedwhacker
dAlen...I appreciate, greatly, that this site, ATS, is multi-national.
BUT, HOWEVER, you must understand that at this place and point in time, we are communicating using English... modern English...but we also understand
that there can be mis-communications that may cause mis-understandings.
I think, my opinion....this might be a great foundation for much of the controversy that erupts, not only on ATS, but in Society in General.
Just a thought...
Not sure Im following.
Im American, so yes English is my native language - despite how I butcher it.
Language plays only a small role in communication glitches, per say - what I have found is that its more the experience/perspectives/ideologies a
given culture brings into a new language being learned that causes miscommunication between 2 languages.
The same goes even amongst people of the same nationality.
How were you raised? What was your collective milieu/way of thought, etc?
We have deeply colored perspectives/biases/prejudices until we realize that we all pretty much saying the same thing...but from different angles. Kind
of funny once the realization comes about that you were actually saying the same thing but seemed to be opposed.
And other times, indeed there is just plain out a different way of thinking...period.
Again, this comes with the above...social conditioning and ones way of thought.
Im not that smooth with words per-say - but it may be because the real root of the issue in miscommunication is not the words we choose to use, but
how we use view them.
We tend to take words and take them for face value having a certain weight of meaning. (of course this changes from family to family, until in a
different culture the word take on a whole new meaning and changes.)
I like how E.T. (Eckhart Tolle) says that words are pointers.
When I write its more a general pointing to a 100 different things that, although they seem to loosely connect - connect, non-the-less.
In my view its all holistic. Somehow Im connected to you and everyone else in the universe. Something is common to everything in creation, and this
can help drop prejudices when viewed this way.
Sure I can be misunderstood - and in truth I have found that the written word, even in the hands of a poet, can take on a whole different meaning than
if you heard the content spoken from the original author. (Tone, inflection, intent, etc.)
Case in point - E.T. (Eckhart Tolle), I read a passage in his book a while back and thought he was being quite rude/sarcastic...heard his audio book
and realized I totally misunderstood him. And in my opinion he is a literary genius to be able to so eloquently express the concepts he does. (though
I know its not original...different pointers work for different people.)
So words point beyond themselves. Like "the finger pointing to the moon...is not the moon."
Regardless, I accept that there will be times that communication just does not 'happen' for one reason or another between me and someone else. I am
quite stubborn myself, so that doesnt always help.
Either way, thanks for your post.
I wanted to add that most of the issues is ego being offended that its story is not believed...in regards to how 'heated arguments' on message
boards or in life get started. - I have a lot of ego which gets offended.
Ego in and of itself is not bad, its a tool. Its when we take it serious (the game, or roles we play, so to speak) that it gets 'silly'.
[edit on 21-4-2008 by dAlen]