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Originally posted by josephine
The civilians need those jobs.
The troops need to be back here protecting the borders.
Their not doing anything productive in Iraq.
This kid should not get special treatment..military soldiers are already treated like gods. they are given special treatments everywhere they go. They are given homes, cars, money, discounts.
Originally posted by jedimiller
Oh please that old excuse about freedom. America has been free since 1776. Read the declaration of independance. We are not fighting this war for any type of freedom. We have been free from the British, their taxations and laws. Iraq has not done anything to take our freedoms away. So please stop with nonsense please.
it's funny, you guys will make up any excuse to go to war. So I suppose any war that the US fights is for freedom right?
Originally posted by jedimiller
Originally posted by rcwj75
but of course you have no idea living in your perfect AMERICAN FREE get what you want when you want it world...oh and guess who you have to thank for that??????????? yeah..you know!
Oh please that old excuse about freedom. America has been free since 1776. Read the declaration of independance. We are not fighting this war for any type of freedom. We have been free from the British, their taxations and laws. Iraq has not done anything to take our freedoms away. So please stop with nonsense please.
it's funny, you guys will make up any excuse to go to war. So I suppose any war that the US fights is for freedom right?
This kid should not get special treatment..military soldiers are already treated like gods. they are given special treatments everywhere they go. They are given homes, cars, money, discounts. We should give them a throne room too. Yes, maybe i'll make some foes here and there. but guess what? I don't support the war, so I wont support the soldier, his kids or his wife..
Originally posted by jedimiller
here come the foes! I think I already got 3 up here in U2U. here's an idea. how about we don't pay the soldiers to do their duty? how about they do it because they are patriotic and actually saving someone? they should be soldiers..we shouldn't be buying soldiers. Nowadays, marines, Army whatever branch just do it for the benefits. the pay.
if they want to help the country so much, why is it that on TV I always see them crying and complaining about being at war? they joined because they wanted easy money and got put to work. That's bush for you, he builds up the military, pays these kids to shoot innocent iraqis and that's where the money is a waste.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
If you think people join for the benefits and pay, you are ignorant. The pay is so flippn low, that many have to get 2nd jobs to support their families. And easy money? Again, you are ignorant. Being in the military is NOT easy.
Originally posted by rcwj75
This kids father could be killed at any minute, if he wants to take a minute he has free and call his child he can, and the school, the rule, and anyone else's dumb--- can sit there like the good little idiots they are and let a FATHER talk to his SON when it could be their last time speaking. Oh thats right, we live in America..family don't mean anything anymore...rules and someone elses way of thinking should overide FAMILY!!!! Give me a break...this is why the morals of this country are gone. It's pathetic.
Oh and lastly...how long do you think the US or WORLD would last without our military? I am REAL curious about this....
[edit on 4/13/2008 by rcwj75]
Originally posted by jedimiller
Sure, real soldiers fight for freedom.
do you think soldiers went to WWII because of the benefits? because they got 100K a year a car and a house? No. they went there for a real cause, to fight a real threat.
Do you think the civil war paid for their soldiers? no. soldiers that actually fought for this country did it for peace, freedom and true patriotism. Those soldiers I have admiration for.
not today's type soldiers. They don't even know what they are fighting for, they are just there because they had nothing to do after high school and the money and benefits sounded real good. I met this marine who told me in Texas he would be given a parade for his work. but he forgot he was living in california.
Originally posted by jedimiller
My last post for the night. Soldiers are not supposed to be making phone calls, surfing the internet and playing video games. I've heard from many friends talk about what they did in the military. Usually, they waste time sitting around playing poker and drinking. Soldiers at war don't have time to call their kids and make calls like these..and they shouldn't because it makes them weak.
Soldiers who served in WWII didn't talk to their families for months. they sent letters. they were fighting a war. the Iraq was is a mickey mouse war and that's why they have the time to make phone calls.
Conclusion: They are there to fight a war. Not to be on the phone talking to their families. Sorry, but soldiers who worry more about their family than they job at war are weak and probably don't belong there.
Originally posted by rcwj75
reply to post by theBLESSINGofVISION
thanks...and I see you have tupac there...I hate rap (sorry..lol) but atleast even he knew a FATHER and his CHILD should NEVER be kept apart or from one another no matter the communication because of some dumb rule...especially if that father could die at ANY moment and that kid has to live with that...
Just imagine...kid doesnt answer...dad leaves voicemail...10 minutes later get killed by an IED or bullet....comes home, gets buried and the son NEVER gets to talk to HIS FATHER again...why..because of a school rule!!! Again its not like his dad was was working at the office and was going to be late to dinner or to see his son play a game...keep that in mind!
Originally posted by jedimiller
My last post for the night. Soldiers are not supposed to be making phone calls, surfing the internet and playing video games. I've heard from many friends talk about what they did in the military. Usually, they waste time sitting around playing poker and drinking. Soldiers at war don't have time to call their kids and make calls like these..and they shouldn't because it makes them weak.
Soldiers who served in WWII didn't talk to their families for months. they sent letters. they were fighting a war. the Iraq war is a mickey mouse war, and that's why they have the time to make phone calls.
Conclusion: They are there to fight a war. Not to be on the phone talking to their families. Sorry, but soldiers who worry more about their family than they job at war are weak and probably don't belong there.
[edit on 13-4-2008 by jedimiller]
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
School is not taken seriously enough these days, children are in school to learn.
Little Johnny was in school, he's there to do a job. LEARN.
I see this father as inconsiderate and selfish.