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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 03:21 PM by NewWorldOver
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There was also a study done that showed that plants can communicate with eachother via imagery.
Actual images. Images of neighboring plants, nearby bodies of water, images of the sky - an electronic device was placed between two 'communicating'
plants (plants transferring electric charges) and the scientists got actual images of leaves, twigs etc.
This proved that plants can see... and that they have memory... this was a fascinating discovery that I never heard of after seeing the T.V. show. If
you ask me, there is a negative consciousness on this earth that does not want us to know how connected we are... why else are fascintating
discoveries like this ignored?
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 03:29 PM by Trance Optic
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Why are they ignored.... Becuz A; we as humans have a hard time believing it.
B, becuz Most in positions of power would be overthrown since they have hidden this from us for such a long time by saying its Nonsense,
C, Its hard to prove, becuz our measure of science makes us think we can understand all thru those scientific Measures when in actuality we are using
a tape measurer to measure Gas pretty much, we just do not understand how an why this is here an most dont wanna go any further then that since it is
thought that their findings will not be happily met.
Most of these people are discredited so much they go underground an never get a shred of respect afterwards, its like you get a Scarlet Letter for
trying to understand things that most would say dont exsist.
but we the wee ones, understand this an believe it since we arent so tied in to their Socalistic Ideals.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 04:35 PM by jaamaan
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Here is more on the man Luther Burbank.
Luther Burbank was a pioneer who discarded the limitations of popular belief in the field of horticulture and created miracles. He devoured Charles
Darwin's two-volume treatise in 1868 entitled "The Variation of Animals and Plants Under Domestication," which espoused the idea that organisms
vary when they are removed from their natural conditions. Convinced that plants, as well as people, behave differently when in a different
environment, he began to order varieties of plants from countries like Japan and New Zealand to cross with homegrown plants. The results were
thousands of varieties over his lifetime like the Climax Plum that tastes like pineapple and the Royal Walnut that outgrew regular walnuts eight to
one, and which Burbank hoped would revolutionize the furniture business.
When Burbank wanted a plant to develop in some particular and new way uncommon to their species he would get on his knees and talk to them. He
believed that plants have more than twenty sensory perceptions that we are unable to recognize because they are different than our own. He didn't
know if they could understand his words, but he felt that they could comprehend his meaning. Burbank went on to develop a spineless cactus. "While I
was conducting my experiments with cacti," he said, "I often talked to the plants to create a vibration of love. You have nothing to fear," I would
tell them. "You don't need your defensive thorns. I will protect you." According to Manly P. Hall, "Burbank explained to me that in all his
experimentation he took plants into his confidence, asked them to help, and assured them that he held their small lives in deepest regard and
affection."
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 06:23 PM by jaamaan
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Here is an other scientist Marcel Joseph Vogel who did some fantastic discoveries on plant emotions.
Have a peek, this stuff is amazing i think.
Marcel Joseph Vogel (1917 - 1991) was a research scientist for IBM’s San Jose facility for 27 years. He received numerous patents for his inventions
during this time. Among these was the magnetic coating for the 24” hard disc drive systems still in use. His areas of expertise were phosphor
technology, liquid crystal systems, luminescence, and magnetics.
In the 1970’s Marcel did pioneering work in man-plant communication experiments.
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He was able to duplicate the Backster effect of using plants as transducers for bio-energetic fields that the human mind releases, demonstrating that
plants respond to thought.
He used split leaf philodendrons connected to a Wheatstone Bridge that would compare a known resistance to an unknown resistance.
He learned that when he released his breath slowly there was virtually no response from the plant.
When he pulsed his breath through the nostrils, as he held a thought in mind, the plant would respond dramatically.
It was also found that these fields, linked to the action of breath and thought, do not have a significant time domain to them.
The responsiveness of the plants to thought was also the same whether eight inches away, eight feet, or eight thousand miles!
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 06:29 PM by Vanitas
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Originally posted by Sleuth
IMHO, humans are too quick to assume they know everything about everything. 
Which is the hallmark of a true ignorant, one who knows nothing (certainly nothing worth knowing).
I have not posted this just to "pontificate" and vent my frustration over ignorants. If just ONE person who thinks he/she "knows better" than all
of us who are proudly aware of the scope of our human ignorance (and thereby open) reconsidered his/her pitiful position and embraced the condition of
being an "empty vessel" open to the cosmos, I'd count this day as a success in my life.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 06:31 PM by jaamaan
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Further experimentation led to even more astonishing results: Picking three leaves from an elm, Vogel laid them side-by-side on a glass plate at his
home. Each day he spent a few minutes concentrating on two of the leaves - sending them love, and thoughts of well-being - - while ignoring the third.
After a week, the leaf he ignored was brown and shriveled, while the only noticeable difference from the plants he communed with from the day he
picked them was that the stems actually appeared to be healing.
iijewelry.com...
Additional experimentation revealed that through thought alone he found he could make a plant register up to 8,000 miles away. In one experiment, he
wired two plants to the same recording device. He pulled a leaf from one plant and found that the second plant responded to the injury of the first,
but only if he was paying attention to it. It appeared to be his own mental responses he was recording through the plants, as if the plants were
mirroring his own consciousness.
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I mean, this is amazing.
The man not only tries to state that plants have emotions but also that they read our minds, over 8,000 miles away.
And the man has some credentials.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 06:50 PM by jaamaan
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Another scientist who conducted experiments on plants is Sir Jagadis Chundra Bose, who began to conduct his research over one hundred years ago. Bose
noted that certain plants had reflex arcs like animals, nervous systems, and also hearts cells, which are used for pumping sap up through the plant.
Bose thought that a brain is not required to be conscious, and that anything with a nervous system could possess at least some level of
consciousness.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 07:35 PM by jaamaan
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Hello, still awake every one.
These people are "proving" that plants can read our mind and react to our emotions.
Plants have a system that can be compared to our nervous system, they can get drunk and sedated.
That there is some kind of "wireles" connection between plants and humans.
By the power of our mind we can change the plants life.
And that these signals go faster than light over distances further than lightyears.
L. George Lawrence, a Silesian-born electronics
specialist, began his studies into plant biodynamics in 1962
while employed as a instrumentation engineer for a Los Angeles
space-science corporation. He was actually engaged in a project
to develop jam-proof missile components, and believed that using
plant tissue as a type of transducer would produce the desired
results. He summarized that living plant tissues or leaves were
capable of simultaneously sensing temperature change,
gravitational variation, electromagnetic fields, and a host of
other environmental effects - an ability no known mechanical
sensor possessed.
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The impetus which directed our experiments toward
those of Lawrence was the fact that he was able to obtain
directional and wireless biodynamic signals over
great distances.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 10:31 PM by SlyCM (work)
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Heh... I guess PETA's really lost their case now then?
P.S. so I don't just have a one liner!
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 10:37 PM by Vanitas
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By the power of our mind we can change the plants life.

Of course we can.
But I'd rather see the plants changing the lives of the humans by the power of their "minds".
And it's not an empty truism on my part.
(Just compare the ficus and the woman from my earlier post: which one of them was more sensitive and evolved...?  )
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 07:55 AM by jaamaan
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Originally posted by Vanitas
But I'd rather see the plants changing the lives of the humans by the power of their "minds".
And it's not an empty truism on my part.
(Just compare the ficus and the woman from my earlier post: which one of them was more sensitive and evolved...?  )

I think the whole thing works both ways.
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 07:57 AM by jaamaan
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Originally posted by NewWorldOver
There was also a study done that showed that plants can communicate with eachother via imagery.
Actual images. Images of neighboring plants, nearby bodies of water, images of the sky - an electronic device was placed between two 'communicating'
plants (plants transferring electric charges) and the scientists got actual images of leaves, twigs etc.

Fantastic stuff.
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 02:55 PM by Animal
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I believe. I consider myself to be a naturalist to some extent, I am a landscape architect, so though I do not tend plants daily, I spend a lot of
time thinking about them, observing them, and I feel like I know plants(in my area) better than most people these days. I see evidence of plant
consciousness everywhere in the plant world.
Some have argued that it is silly to assume plants can "feel" and "think" and "communicate" and when you try to hold them to the human
reality then yes, it is silly. This however is anthropomorphism and projecting our reality so strictly int the plant world makes no sense.
So yes plants can do all the above mentioned, but there is simply no reason to believe it must function as it does for us to be real and valid.
Also, as newworldover has already mentioned, i too believe that there is a "negative consciousness" that lives on this planet that actively
suppresses information such as this from we the people. We are all connected and by we i am not only speaking of humans.
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 06:55 PM by Vanitas
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So yes plants can do all the above mentioned, but there is simply no reason to believe it must function as it does for us to be real and valid.

Amen!
But try and get that into people's minds - and that, tragically, includes most of the most vocal "scientists"...
 i too believe that there is a "negative consciousness" that lives on this planet that actively suppresses information such as this from we
the people. 
I don't think that's even necessary - to actively suppress, I mean. What happens is that when news of such "alternative" studies get reported,
there'll always be some "expert", or even a panel of them, to refute it as "nonsense" - and that will be it.
People are far too reliant on the media - even to the point of dismissing their own experiences that don't fit the "mold".
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 06:59 PM by Vanitas
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I think the whole thing works both ways.

Oh, I wish...!
But does it? Really really?
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reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 09:01 PM by jaamaan
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Originally posted by Vanitas
I think the whole thing works both ways.

Oh, I wish...!
But does it? Really really?

I have to look into that
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reply posted on 23-3-2008 @ 01:17 PM by jaamaan
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Some more on the "rays" that are possibly used for the "plant" communication.
In 1962, Silesian-born engineer L. George Lawrence, employed by the LA Space-Science Corporation to develop jam-proof missile components, decided to
try using biological material in electronic sensors. His first line of enquiry led him to the work of Alexander Gurwitsch, one of the pioneers of
vital force research. Gurwitsch showed that cells appear to affect each other during the process of mitosis, which led him to develop a theory in
which cells communicate through what he called "mitogenic rays".
www.nexusmagazine.com...
However, while having lunch, he left the biosensor pointing in some random direction. To his amazement, the audio output from the biosensor's circuit
started to warble rapidly, indicating some mitogenic or biodynamic signal being picked up. After an intense investigation, Lawrence concluded that the
signals had originated from outer space and were of intelligent origin.
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So this man L. George Lawrence states he intercepted some of these rays from outher space and concluded "that the signals had originated from outer
space and were of intelligent origin"
The same rays that are measured between all living things.
And they are used for wireless communication and to give each other some spare energy.
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reply posted on 23-3-2008 @ 04:18 PM by jaamaan
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Hashimoto's plant 'speaks', counts, and adds
Plants flatline when person who harms plants visits
Plant picks up owner's ESP sigs, owner in huge crowd
Plant reacts to showing slide of itself at lecture
EEG recorded via plant instead of skull
No water exper. shows neighbor plants help dry 'prisoner'
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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 08:46 AM by jaamaan
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Friends, Enemies Communicate With Plants In Similar Ways.
The scientists also discovered that, like rhizobia and contrary to popular belief, the root-knot nematode signals plants from a distance and therefore
does not need to attach itself to the plant to elicit a response.
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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 08:51 AM by jaamaan
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Bit of topic but quite funny do.
Botanicalls Twitter answers the question: What's up with your plant? It offers a connection to your leafy pal via online Twitter status updates that
reach you anywhere in the world. When your plant needs water, it will post to let you know, and send its thanks when you show it love.
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