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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 09:04 AM by jaamaan



Originally posted by NewWorldOver
There was also a study done that showed that plants can communicate with eachother via imagery.

Actual images. Images of neighboring plants, nearby bodies of water, images of the sky - an electronic device was placed between two 'communicating' plants (plants transferring electric charges) and the scientists got actual images of leaves, twigs etc.



I cannot find anything on this, do you have any more information about these experiments ?



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reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 05:29 PM by MrsEsterhouse


Going over info now. Another Great Post! starred and flagged!
people doubting plants consciousness are wrong.
I know it to be true. I always listen to my intuition and it's never wrong. I can feel when my plants are happy and when there sad.



Plants not conscious. HA! Tell that to my orchids!



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reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 05:56 PM by jaamaan



Originally posted by MrsEsterhouse
Going over info now. Another Great Post! starred and flagged!
people doubting plants consciousness are wrong.



You are very welcome, i am amazed that this topic gets so little attention.
There is so much research that is documented in this direction and it leads to amazing results.
Plants seem to have emotions and some kind of sytem that could be compared to our nerve system.
Big industries know all this long ago, some of the scientists mentioned in this topic used plant tissiu(mind my spelling) in his missile sensors.
Etc etc.



I know it to be true. I always listen to my intuition and it's never wrong. I can feel when my plants are happy and when there sad.



Plants not conscious. HA! Tell that to my orchids!


And they can feel that from you to



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reply posted on 12-4-2008 @ 06:29 PM by MrsEsterhouse


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Cleve Backster's polygraph experiments are pretty mindblowing!
Science is funny how it's in denial. Always Deny Denial!





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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 12:18 AM by MrsEsterhouse


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Big industries know all this long ago, some of the scientists mentioned in this topic used plant tissiu(mind my spelling) in his missile sensors.
Etc etc.

Care to elaborate?

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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 05:20 AM by jaamaan



Originally posted by MrsEsterhouse
reply to post by jaamaan





Big industries know all this long ago, some of the scientists mentioned in this topic used plant tissiu(mind my spelling) in his missile sensors.
Etc etc.

Care to elaborate?

[edit on 14-4-2008 by MrsEsterhouse]


Yes i will give it a go



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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 05:34 AM by jaamaan




L. George Lawrence, a Silesian-born electronics
specialist, began his studies into plant biodynamics in 1962
while employed as a instrumentation engineer for a Los Angeles
space-science corporation. He was actually engaged in a project
to develop jam-proof missile components, and believed that using
plant tissue as a type of transducer would produce the desired
results. He summarized that living plant tissues or leaves were
capable of simultaneously sensing temperature change,
gravitational variation, electromagnetic fields, and a host of
other environmental effects - an ability no known mechanical
sensor possessed.
www.borderlands.com...




BIODYNAMIC COMMUNICATIONS

In 1962, Silesian-born engineer L. George Lawrence, employed by the LA Space-Science Corporation to develop jam-proof missile components, decided to try using biological material in electronic sensors. His first line of enquiry led him to the work of Alexander Gurwitsch, one of the pioneers of vital force research. Gurwitsch showed that cells appear to affect each other during the process of mitosis, which led him to develop a theory in which cells communicate through what he called "mitogenic rays".
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


Here is some extra info on the BIODYNAMIC COMMUNICATIONS.

Sorry to answer in a lot of quotes from external sources.
My english writing is not so good so complicated things are hard for me to write.
Most of the masterial has been written down allready any way by professional scientists and journalists.

I am very interested in this particular topic and i felt the need to see if there are any others on this board who might be interested.
But it seems not that many people are.
This could be because of the way i present the information of course, that would be a pitty because i think the knowledge that floats around about this topic goes quite deep and toutches a lot of other subjects.

If people seem interested i will try and post a whole lot more information about this.

If any one could add more information that would be great.



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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 05:38 AM by jaamaan



Originally posted by NewWorldOver
There was also a study done that showed that plants can communicate with eachother via imagery.

Actual images. Images of neighboring plants, nearby bodies of water, images of the sky - an electronic device was placed between two 'communicating' plants (plants transferring electric charges) and the scientists got actual images of leaves, twigs etc.



I have been looking around if i could find anything on this but i have not been able to.
If you could find any online info about this that would be great.



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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 05:59 AM by jaamaan


Here is some more on plant sensors.

www.borderlands.com...



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reply posted on 16-4-2008 @ 09:17 AM by MrsEsterhouse


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Thanks for reply.

I will be going over info today. I am very interested in plant and animal consciousness as im sure others our on the site. It just may take a little longer to get the attention it deserves because everyone's drawn to the sensational stories which end up not always being to sensational.

I watched the whole Secretlife of Plants. A lot of the music was very painful to sit through but was well worth it for the russian experiment, which I believe said it proved plants ablity to think by identifying the murderer.
Also the experiment with the microscope was amazing!
Great Post!



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reply posted on 16-4-2008 @ 09:28 AM by dk3000


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Simple. First read about this:

www.skepdic.com...

Then click this:

www.thesynergycompany.com...-5

You will find some very interesting info on the posted links- also if you are into fractals at all, you will discover that the art of fractals evolved from Kirlian photography and fractals are scientifically, spiritually, and mathematically proven phenomenon.

Enjoy the ride!



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reply posted on 16-4-2008 @ 07:42 PM by MrsEsterhouse



Using his polygraph test Backster was able to show that plants have memory. He did this using a very human orientated experiment based on the game of ?Murder?. He collected together 6 students and had them all choose a piece of paper on one of which was written ?Murderer?. They were all told that if they had received this piece of paper they were to go into a room with two plants in it and trample on and kill one of them. They were not to tell anyone else that they had done it. After this had been done the six students where asked to parade in front of the still living plant and see what, if any, response was given on the polygraph test. When the five innocent students walked into the room there was little to no response from the plant, however, when the murderer came it, the plant went wild. It remembered 'seeing' this student killing its fellow right in front of him.

from
www.gla.ac.uk...

I guess Dr. Backster did the experiment as well.



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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 06:29 AM by jaamaan


It is interesting toi see that there is loads of modern research going on into the field of plant emotions and responses.

Lets dig some deeper to see what they come up with.

Maybe there are some biological experts here on the board that can comfirm these things or maybe debunk them.
Because i am pretty far from beeing an expert in this field, i just have a huge interest in this particular subject.

Any additions would be great.



Plant neurobiology


With a fuller understanding of signaling and communication within and among plants, it becomes clear that these sensitive biological organisms actively and competitively forage for limited resources, both above and below ground.
In addition, plants accurately compute their circumstances, use sophisticated cost benefit analysis, and they take tightly controlled actions to mitigate and control diverse environmental stressors.

Plants also emerge as capable of discriminating positive and negative experiences, and 'learning' from their past experiences.
Plants use this cognitively acquired information to update their behavior in order to survive present and future challenges of their environment. Moreover, plants are also capable of refined recognition of self and non-self, and are territorial in behavior.
www.plantneurobiology.org...



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reply posted on 24-4-2008 @ 06:37 AM by jaamaan


Here is some more.



Smart Plants

The question of the moment in this emerging field of plant neurobiology is whether plants are “self-conscious” or not. On one hand is Anthony Trewavas of the University of Edinburgh who stated, “We now know there’s an ability of self recognition in plants, which is highly unusual and quite extraordinary that it’s actually there.” Trewavas presented a paper on “The Green Plant as an Intelligent Organism,” in mid-May at the first Symposium of Plant Neurobiology held in Florence, Italy. The meeting was dedicated to the memory of Charles Darwin, the father of the evolution theory of creation, who in 1880 proposed that the root apex represents a diffuse plant brain. The meeting was organized by the universities of Bonn, Germany, and Florence, Italy. Its Advisory Board includes professors from the universities of Bonn, Edinburgh, North Carolina State at Raleigh, and Bristol, England. It sold out in late April.
ucce.ucdavis.edu...



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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 02:52 AM by verylowfrequency


Thank you for creating this thread & providing so many links for us.

I have sat in the wilderness in the middle of the night and watched the trees (mostly by looking up at them from the ground and viewing their structure with the light of the moon & the stars through the branches) and as I look at them I see them as one might look at families all different shapes and sizes and somehow I feel all different personalities all around me as I watch them and they watch me.

It's almost like watching people at a family reunion, I see grandparents, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, sons and daughters, both strong and weak, healthy and diseased like they are dancing in a ballroom that's ceiling is earth's atmosphere and its chandeliers are the stars and the trees seem to come alive at night and move even when there is no perceptible wind. Almost as if they are creating the wind themselves and dancing in the night.

They move slowly almost like they exist in another time scale than us, but move they do, they can climb mountains & drop into valleys through generations. Though we can kill them quickly in our time their lifespans can be much longer than ours and if they are communicating they are holding much knowledge as they have been alive and networked for quite a long time.

I've often wondered if they exist and are aware of more dimensions then we are and what we see is only a small part of what they are. Maybe they & their communication network will one day allow us to communicate beyond our own dimension or maybe they can just give us information about our past & future. If nothing else they tell us the health of our planet as the oceans do and without them we cannot thrive here as we do.

I know this sounds far fetched and I have no proof or scientific background, but I believe they can influence the weather, not just by being there being holders of moisture & its evaporation as part of the system, but they themselves can willingly change whole forests to draw the weather in - that I do believe. A delicate balance it seems.

For me the forest has always been enchanted and they always speak to me. Through you ears they stretch, groan, & shimmer in the night through your mind their voices speak each differently.

The big girl you see in my avatar (today) lives in the forest, she is an anomaly and spoke to me she did. Can you hear what she says?

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reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 05:51 AM by jaamaan


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That is an interesting piece of writing.



I know this sounds far fetched and I have no proof or scientific background, but I believe they can influence the weather, not just by being there being holders of moisture & its evaporation as part of the system, but they themselves can willingly change whole forests to draw the weather in - that I do believe. A delicate balance it seems.



I think there are quite some people believing these things.

Somewhere in this direction.



The Gaia hypothesis is an ecological hypothesis that proposes that living and nonliving parts of the earth are a complex interacting system that can be thought of as a single organism. Named after the Greek earth goddess, this hypothesis postulates that all living things have a regulatory effect on the Earth's environment that promotes life overall.
en.wikipedia.org...


We all make it rain and let the wind blow where it is needded according those these people.


I think this falls kind of in place with the law of attraction and reality manipulation



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reply posted on 25-5-2008 @ 09:21 AM by observe50


People had better wake up to realizing they better start planting more trees and plants.

We get not only our Oxygen as you know but our food and cures from these precious creations.

With all the fires and pollutions going on now you all must realize if planting isn't done in mass of these wonderful life giving species we will do ourselves in.

Remember "The Tree of Life" it's named that for a reason!!!!



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