This is American politics being politics. The fact he is black is enough of a reason for anything being said considered racist. The list is long and illustrious of people in entertainment and politics of having a racist label thrown their way.

There is a tremendous double standard in the media between liberal and conservative and Republican and demoncrat.

As far as I'm concerned, Geraldine is a Flip Wilson character. Only the older people here will remember that one....

Originally posted by Sublime620
Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you about it. If you think that Obama is winning the election because he's black, you need to go back to 1950 and hang out with your peers.

Oh, is that your subtle way of saying I'm racist? If you're going to say it, say it big shot! I should have known a narrow mind would throw out the insults. I could care less that he's black and you know it! I for one would have loved to have seen Colin Powell run, who even with his lack of domestic policy experience would be a great pres.

I made the point of Obama making that speech combined with being black vaulting him into the forefront as it did. The truth is the truth any way you slice it and it doesn't take a bigot to see it.

Quazga,

I suggest you read my post again. I said: "If he didn't make that speech, he wouldn't even be running". Dude, it's a combination. So tell me, is a speech or the words contained therein enough qualification to run the USA? I mean show me something that makes this guy worthy of the presidency?

HAHAHA You guys are so silly. Let me write a willy-nilly silly dilly:

His name is Obama, and he is winning.
Obama is black, and he is winning
He is a man, and he is winning.

Obama the black man is winning because he is Obama the black man.

According to the theory that we are the sum of our experiences, then being black is a large part of Obama the black man's experience.

If he were not black then he wouldn't be winning because he wouldn't be Obama the black man the entity that is winning. Obama only exists as a black man.

The black man named Obama who is winning would not exist if he were not winning. If such a case were to arise, the black man named Obama would be losing.

it seems to me that the obama phenomenon is due to his charisma above all else. i do not buy into the obama craze but the fact is that he exudes a commanding presence and charisma that trumps his race or policies or lack thereof etc.

Racist or not, it was a useless comment and a divisive one too.

Originally posted by Sublime620
Total loss of reason by you man. Absolutely no logic in what you said.

Hillary is her name. She is losing.
Hillary is white. She is losing.
Hillary is a woman. She is losing.

So by your standards, the reason Hillary is losing is because she is a white woman.

Ohhh, it all makes sense now. We're using the retarded method of analyzing statistics. Let's not bother listening to speeches, reading headlines and articles, and watching debates, we'll just look at their race and sex and figure out why they are winning from that.

"Hillary is losing because she is white and a woman."

That statement is just as dumb as what the lady this article is about said.

Nevermind. You obviously have to clue of philosophical discourse. Carry on with your diatribe.

I hop I can end this with these 2 quotes.

1. " If we want to look at facts, let's look at the U.S. Census. According to 2005 numbers, African-Americans make up 13.4% of the total U.S. population. That is a fact. Obviously, that number in any one state may be higher, or lower. However, overall, a candidate cannot win with just 13.4% of the vote (and not all African-Americans will vote for Obama, or necessarily vote at all, just as with white women).

So, let's get real. This pseudo-logic may be appealing, and I have no doubt there is still sexism in media, just as there is racism, even "unintentional" racism. But the reality is — no candidate, black, white, or green can win the nomination with only 13.4% of the vote. The majority of states have voted, and Obama is in the lead. He is a real candidate, with real substance. Disagree with his positions, but don't demean the race with phoney logic."

And if that won't do it maybe this will...

2. "I think she's right… If Obama were a white man, he wouldn't be in the situation he's in today.

If he were a white man and he:

leads the popular vote
leads the elected delegate count
won 29+ states
won democrats abroad
electrofied crowds of thousands
was a qualified Senator
showed excellent judgement
was articulate
ran on a platform of hope
did not play "politics as usual"
had everything, including the kitchen sink hurled at him
did not get draw into muddy politics
was consistantly lied on
was constantly having his words twisted…

Yes, I'd say that if he was a white man, this country would be outraged that this nomination process was still going on. He would have been the nominee after IOWA… The media certainly wouldn't be trying to make him seem "questionable" as to whether or not he's worthy of be "Commander-in-Chief" So if you want to play the race card, which Obama has done everything in his power to stay away from, then lets call it like we see it. He has to do twice as much just to be on equal footing… Thats ok, we're used to it. You know what, just makes us stronger.

Nevermind this man's skin color… Elect him because he's the best man for the job."

OK?

I don't know about the whole run for the nomination, but Obama won Mississippi along racial lines.

I think we need more stats to see if the statement was correct.

Furthermore, as long as there is race, there will be racism. I see no problem in pointing out or recognizing differences, as long as we are not prejudicial about them.

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