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Originally posted by LDragonFire
So in no way did this event have to do with Judeo Christian beliefs by the powers that be [America and Europe] attempting to fulfill biblical prophecy, by taking advantage of the holocaust in Europe?
Originally posted by Locoman8
We are living in a time where prophecy is being fulfilled every day. ... Not many bible scholars will tell you that but all it takes is some research.
Originally posted by Nohup
Is there a way to separate the predictions that came true on their own from the ones that are "self-fulfilling" prophecies...
Originally posted by marg6043
The problem with the predictions of the bible are that they were written down after the facts as the bible was compiled most of the predictions were already fulfilled.
Originally posted by AshleyD
People who claim Biblical prophecies were nothing more than postdiction or self fulfilled are obviously reaching and do not know their facts.
Carry on.
Originally posted by Locoman8
We are living in a time where prophecy is being fulfilled every day. 9-11 was prophecy. It was the first thunder of the sixth seal of revelation which started the "labor pains" of revelation. Natural disasters, war, pestilence, famine, and many other things of revelation are being fulfilled as "labor pains" right now. Only when the 7th seal is opened will the labor pains turn to birth pains. The final 3 1/2 years is going to be here soon. Start counting months, or weeks. Not years anymore. World War 3 is upon us. Just wait til the great world stock market crash and the fight for oil against Iran. America is doomed and don't think we'll get a new president. Bush was our worst.... (next to Carter) and he will be our last. Our wars on terror have created a domino effect in the way other nations see us. Instead of leading the fight for democracy by example through our own prosperity, we are leading by preemtive war which is what the dictators and communists did to spread their way of governing. The death of Saddam Hussein was predicted in the bible as the "King of New Babylon". The first seal of revelation was opened on Dec. 17, 1994 and the sixth seal was opened on Sept. 11, 2001. Once the 7 thunders of the sixth seal are completed, the seventh seal will be opened which will trigger the final 1260 days of man's reign on earth. Another interesting prophecy is the one that involves the United States and Britain in the bible. Of the original 12 tribes of Israel, one known as Joseph was divided into two sub-tribes. Joseph was the son of Jacob that was exiled into Egypt by his brothers. Since his brothers decieved him, God gave him great authority in Egypt as chief deputy leaving him in charge of the food supply during a time of epidemics and plagues. His brothers literally begged him for some food to stay alive. They were at the mercy of the one person they abandoned. Because of his kindness, Joseph ended up with a separate covenant with God, apart fromt the other 11 tribes. Through Joseph's sons, Manassah & Ephairim, God stated that these two sub-tribes would gain prosperity, wealth and power before the end times. One would be a nation consting of many different nations (British Empire) and one would be one GREAT nation of power and wealth (U.S.A.). The British Empire was spread out all over the globe and through this empire, we ended up with our english speaking countries. These nations of english speaking people are the descendants of Joseph, Jacob's son. Not many bible scholars will tell you that but all it takes is some research.
Originally posted by marg6043
this is good example of blind faith never argue with blind faith because is going to take you no where.