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posted on Feb, 19 2004 @ 11:26 PM
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Imagine how funny it would be if you had actually read the book before seeing the episode. It was almost exactly what I was thinking as I read the book itself.




posted on Feb, 19 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Scat
i had a friend who was mormon and she had to move because her parents said she wasnt doing well...she moved to salt lake......it sucked but im mailing her stuff....besides that i know nothing



Yeah, a lot of Mormon families from different states ship their "problem children" off to live with relatives here in Utah. The whole state is run by the Mormon church so, they think it will be good for their kids. Most of the college freshmen in Utah are from California and, came here to stay outta trouble. Good thing there is a few people like me in Utah or else, nobody here would be havin' any fun.



posted on Feb, 20 2004 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Mayhem
First of all there is a lot of bad and false information there. They refer to this "Glenn Pace, a member of the Church's three-man presiding bishopric." First and foremost, there has never been a Glenn Pace as a member of the presiding bishopric.


go to:

www.lds.org...

go to the search. Under "Search the Gospel Archive Library" type in pace. Then go to the pull-down box and click on "ensign" - enter.

Up pops a picture of Glenn Pace, "Second Counselor in the Presiding Bishopric" Hmmm - I guess he really does exist.

More to come.



[Edited on 2/20/2004 by weedpickr]



posted on Feb, 20 2004 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by Mayhem

Secondly, if Pace was such a high member of the church, he would at least refer to them correctly. He listed in his memo people involved ranged from "devout Mormon leaders and include bishops, a diocese president, patriarchs, temple workers ..." Mormons dont have a diocese president, and there are not very many patriarchs. And most patriarchs are old, in their sixties and up.




In Pace's memo, he doesn't say "diocese president" he says "stake president" which is part of the mormon church hierarchy. He was misquoted probably because more people would understand "diocese" vs "stake".

Also, there are many patriarchs. There is at least one ordained to give patriarchal blessings in each stake. And sixty isn't that old.

Here is the link. Pace's memo is included in its entirety.

www.helpingmormons.org...



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 09:40 PM
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Will someone please show me where one of the mormon "Apostles" or "Prophet" has ever expressly forbidden the viewing of R rated movies? I do not believe they have ever used the phrase "R rated movies" when discussing what movies not to see.

Also other people besides Joe Smith were reported to have seen the plates of gold. Some of these witnesses (as they are referred to) left the church over bitter disputes. Even on thier death beds, however, none of them ever took back their statements about having seen the plates of gold, or other objects that Smith claimed to have found.

If anyone would like to view the statements or lists of names, i believe that I can dig them up.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 09:46 PM
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Mormonism is one of the fatest if not the fastest growing religion in the world. Their fellowship does a lot of helpful charity. Too many morals and rules for my taste. Beer, pot, caffine, fun sex, porn, socializing with normal people seems off limits to them.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by jrod
Mormonism is one of the fatest if not the fastest growing religion in the world.


No.

Islam is.

Not only in the world, but in America.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 09:59 PM
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Well then, it is the fastest growing branch of Christianity.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by jrod
Well then, it is the fastest growing branch of Christianity.



I think that is not correct.

I think Pentecostalism is the fast growing Christian sect.

Mormonism is fast though, too.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by lonestar
Will someone please show me where one of the mormon "Apostles" or "Prophet" has ever expressly forbidden the viewing of R rated movies? I do not believe they have ever used the phrase "R rated movies" when discussing what movies not to see.


Here are some quotables regarding R movies by not only GAs but several "prophets" as well. If you are seeing R rated movies, you are not a very good mormon.
www.lightplanet.com...



posted on May, 4 2004 @ 08:45 PM
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i was talking to a mormon kid over the weekend. he is 19 and has a fiance(sp?). he was telling me all about the restrictions. ive heard most of the other ones, but one i havent seen on this site... he says he is not allowed to masturbate. for a while at night, he had the urge, and he told me he was told to wear multiple pairs of underwear, and he was to tie or strap the book of mormon to his dominant hand. Can anyone verify this, or maybe validify it?



posted on May, 4 2004 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Demonic Aura
i was talking to a mormon kid over the weekend. he is 19 and has a fiance(sp?). he was telling me all about the restrictions. ive heard most of the other ones, but one i havent seen on this site... he says he is not allowed to masturbate. for a while at night, he had the urge, and he told me he was told to wear multiple pairs of underwear, and he was to tie or strap the book of mormon to his dominant hand. Can anyone verify this, or maybe validify it?


It is true. Here's the link. www.lds-mormon.com...



posted on May, 11 2004 @ 01:45 AM
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"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticting unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities. And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it and it was done."
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posted on May, 11 2004 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67

Originally posted by jrod
Mormonism is one of the fatest if not the fastest growing religion in the world.


No.

Islam is.

Not only in the world, but in America.


Islam expension is always a blood bath. Why ?

I think the mormon's book is as valuable as Quran or Bible. And the John Smith and Nephti story is credible. Or at least as credible as a man walking on water or an angel stoping a big rock with one finger*.


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*The muslims haddiths say that when the prophet was hunted by the Koresh family, they tryied to kill by making fall a big rock from an elevated place on him. And the angel Gabriel stopped it with, just with one finger...



posted on May, 11 2004 @ 12:14 PM
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and buy the book entitled The Mormon Murders. It deals with the inside workings of the Mormon Vatican in Salt Lake.

Deals with bombing deaths, forged documents, and mysterious inner workings of protecting the religion through mischievous means.

It is true?
Well, the convicted bomber, Mormon Mark Hoffman, is still in prison for the murders. (If I get a chance I might try a web search on Hoffman. Big if right now.)


G



posted on May, 11 2004 @ 12:17 PM
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Site synosis:

Linda Sillitoe -“Salamander: The Story of the Mormon Forgery Murders
Who was Mark Hofmann and why did he do what he did? Click here to find out. ... is an excellent book about Mark Hofmann. I consumed this ... met or heard of Mark Hofmann or anything about the ... and Kathleen B. Sheets and seriously injured Mark W. Hofmann. ...


site: www.lds-mormon.com/silltoe.shtml

Haven't had time to read it so I hope it goes along with the book.

G



posted on May, 11 2004 @ 12:41 PM
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I did a bit of research on the LDS church because I wanted to write a song for my performing group about being in love w/ a Mormon boy. I plugged 'Mormon in a nutshell' into google and was rewarded with some of the strangest stuff I'd ever read in my life. I joined an 'ex-Mo' group -even though I have never been Mormon- because their experiences of leaving the Mormon church so closely echoed my experiences leaving the pentecostal church.

The thing that gave me strange comfort was to see how people had been so completely hooked into this bizarre religion. It made it easier for me to realize that the things I had been encouraged to believe (Satan is everywhere, jazz is music of the devil, being gay is wrong, God basically hates you, etc etc etc) may be just another version of this same thing. IE: maybe I, too, believed a bunch of really weird bizarre things.

For a bit of fun, plug 'Kolob' into Google and see what comes up.



posted on May, 11 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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[edit on 16-9-2004 by Tamahu]



posted on May, 12 2004 @ 12:43 AM
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Clickee, clickee...
Here's a site by an ex-mormon who researched the religion. It discusses how the church has changed it's history and the Book of Mormon over the years.



posted on May, 12 2004 @ 01:31 AM
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i almost always enjoy chatting up the young missionaries as they come around.
thanks for that quote from b o m about the black skinned ones. i like to ask them why the temple is always sealed except for the special people. seems like such "secret" meetings in the temple would explain a lot of why those of you who were raised in the church never heard of or witnessed any satanic rites...

joeseph smith being 33rd degree mason is a big red flag.





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