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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 11:00 PM by alienstar
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If your talking a conventional war with china and the united states.That 6 carriers wouldnt do that much good.They wouldnt be able to get them
anyplace near the us coastline without being hit hard.Thier tanks arent going to do squat on us soil.I wouldnt worry to much about thier fighters and
bomber either/without constant refueling and i dont know if they have that much dogfighting ability.They are going no place.Nukes on the other hand
300 hitting us soil wouldnt look so pretty.They would get hit back with 500 or so.As in other countries...dont know.All about technology.We are far
superior.
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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 11:18 PM by cruzion
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I would bet my right leg that if Australia got attacked, Britain would be the first into it. I'm certain, if Britain is in amongst it, then America
would show up too. Late again, but they'd show up...
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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 11:34 PM by jetxnet
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A war between US and China would be conventional and Nuclear at the same time. Conventional in terms of an air and ground war over Taiwan, and Nuclear
by means of Nuclear anti-ship missles (i.e. the Sunburn II anti-ship Nuclear missle).
Both the US and China are working on Laser technology to knock out satellites. Without satellites, there is no weapons guidance or C4
communications.
China wants the ability to do force projection with the carriers.
Also, Information and Weather warfare are already likely playing a role in the form of proxy wars.
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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 11:42 PM by alienstar
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I could just imagine a single airburst in orbit from a nuke would drive the emp to totally knock out the whole satellite communications.Even one over
us soil 20 miles could be horrific.
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reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 11:51 PM by BladeGlint
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Australia would be doomed; If China was the aggresor, they would take us over in days or hours.
Why, raw materials to feed the supply chain (logistics).
Lots of coal, natural gas, and of course our position on the globe (land area) not to mention other valuable assets.
I also believe if a nuclear first strike was to happen then a number of sites in Australia would be amongst the first places to be hit (Pine
Gap/Army/Airforce bases).
Australia would (IMO) be one of the first countries to help the USA or any other sovereign states that were attacked in any such aggression.
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reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 10:39 AM by cruzion
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Australia is in an odd place, strategically. China is just up the road, with lots of islands in between. America has got a lot of water to cover to
get down there. Britain is screwed to get any assistance there quickly.
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reply posted on 28-6-2008 @ 11:20 AM by Sunray
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Originally posted by DaRAGE
. If the queen doesn't like a PM that has just been elected, she can say, you are now relieved of position as Prime Minister of Australia.
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HAHAHAHA maybey 100 years ago but there is no way the queen could make such a call, maybey except for a prank one (i heard shes good at that) nowadays
shes nothing more than a superficial role in parliament. if miss elizabeth rang kevin 07 and said buzz off i think hes the one that could talk her
out of widsor castle. 24/7 kevin is the man haha
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 08:36 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply to post by Snappahead
*slams fist on table* But we aren't legaly obliged to help America in any way, we never were!
The American and Australian Governments have spent years leading Australia to believe that we have an alliance with America that forces us to help
them unconditionally whenever they ask for help.
However the only agreement military wise that we have ever had with America was back in world war II when an agreement was signed that stated, if
Australian soil was invaded than America would send military aid.
The only part of Australia that was invaded was papua new guinea, which at the time was actually part of Australia. However the aid that America sent
was their home guard. As bad as the home guard is now, back then they were worse. They had the tendency to run away when they were being shot at!
Eventually they were pulled off the front and broken and tired Australian militia groups were forced to continue fighting because the Americans were
so useless. The majority of Australian deaths towards the end of the Papua campaign can be attributed to the Americans failing to carry out their
objectives during joint operations, because most of them would drop their guns and run as soon as they heard gunfire.
Don't believe me? read Kokoda by Paul Ham
Even after all of this America is still trying to convince Australians that they saved our bums back then, and that our troops did nothing and we ow
them a massive debt for saving our country.
If a world war were to break out, the majority of the Australian population would want to have no involvement in it what so ever. But unfortunately it
is up to the government of Australia to make the decision, and we haven't had a government that actually listens to us when it comes to America in
ages.
When I meet Americans they are always shocked by how many Australians hate them, but it's true. Most Australians hate Americans because we're drawn
into all of THEIR fights, our sons, brothers, uncles die for AMERICAN CAUSES. They don't want to be fighting for America but they have no choice,
it's their job.
We had a bunch of SAS guys ripped apart only a few weeks ago, fighting for and American cause. Why did one medic have to drag them all to safety?
Because he was fighting an American battle
Most Australians hate Americans and their wars, but if it came to a world war the Australian Government would unfortunately pledge Australian
assistance without consulting the people first. Then they'd probably all be killed in the following rebellion in which all American instillation in
Australia
were destroyed by the raging citzens
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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 09:22 PM by Grumble
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China is just now attempting to assert itself as a regional military power. If there is a relevant question here, it is whether the United States
will be willing to protect Australia twenty years from now (should China threaten it).
My opinion is that when the chips are down, blood will protect blood. It is no coincidence that the nations of the English speaking world are the
most tightly allied. As an American I would insist that my country protect Canada, the U.K., and Australia, and I would happily fight for them
myself.
Aussies talk funny but they are O.K. for a bunch of drunken descendents of convicts.
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reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 11:28 PM by thenumber42
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Aussies talk funny but they are O.K. for a bunch of drunken descendents of convicts.
up yours buddy
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reply posted on 3-3-2009 @ 12:15 AM by Flighty
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If the NWO is put in place soon, (as a lot to seem to think it will be) then we won't be fighting against each other as we'll all be under one
government, with one military and one global economic agenda.
I personally doubt there will be a WW3.
There will only be death to those who don't come aboard the NWO train.
Not saying this is a good thing but it looks like that is the way this all going.
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reply posted on 3-3-2009 @ 12:22 AM by munkey66
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Originally posted by Sunray
Originally posted by DaRAGE
. If the queen doesn't like a PM that has just been elected, she can say, you are now relieved of position as Prime Minister of Australia.
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HAHAHAHA maybey 100 years ago but there is no way the queen could make such a call, maybey except for a prank one (i heard shes good at that) nowadays
shes nothing more than a superficial role in parliament. if miss elizabeth rang kevin 07 and said buzz off i think hes the one that could talk her
out of widsor castle. 24/7 kevin is the man haha
You may be to young to remember an Australian Prime minister who was sacked by the queen, Gough Whitlam 1975.
as far as USA versus China, that is a bit far off, China is being set up to be the world police and will stay out of conflict, it will more than
likely be a Russia/Iran versus the allies type of deal.
It won't go nuclear, the elite don't want to destroy their inheritence.
Why will china be used as the world police? because when their job is done, Avian bird flu will take care of them, it is almost race specific now.
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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 01:39 AM by GORGANTHIUM
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I an guessing Australia would be brought into ww3 because china will attack Australia anyway.Pinegap and northwest cape would be prime nuclear targets
for chinese nuclear missles as they are the eyes and ears of the US military machine.If Indonesia joined the china alliance with north korea that may
effect Australia in a number of ways.The worst thing about world war three is the aftermath of the war.Can you just imagine the number of chinese
refuges who would have to leave china as 75% of china will be a nuclear wasteland where nobody can live.
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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 02:55 AM by Tristanchi
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My personal belief is that Australia could easily be the cause of WW3.
China needs Australia, it has everything China needs, land space and natural resources etc. Without expansion into OZ China will collapse under the
weight of it's population.
It also houses some of the US's most secret complexes.
IF you watch the news carefully, China is already invading Australia economically, in less than 50 years it will have achieved its goal. Clearly the
US and the UK (the queen is still head of state here) will not let this happen. This is were the WW3 will start.
By the way, i find it bizarre that people believe that there will be "camps" in a nuke war, the big boys will slug it out without hesitation, it
will be over in then that 24 hours if and when it happens. Once you get to nuke war all alliances are null, every country for itself.
However i believe that the US would emerge as the victors they are technologically far ahead of most other countries it seems. Hopefully we will never
have to find out if this is the truth!
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reply posted on 15-10-2009 @ 09:46 AM by Jonjo
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Australia will be used as a NWB
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