Australia's Role in World War III, page 1
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reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 06:43 AM by Conspiracy Theorist
reply to post by Vimes



Excellent questions Vimes.

I dont see why we would be expected to participate, since a conventional war between China and the US is highly improbable. Where would such a battle take place?

The truth is, that the only war that could occur between China and the US would be a nuclear one.

The 6 supercarriers you mentioned weren't a threat in the hands of the Russians and they wont be a threat in the hands of the Chinese. To the US Navy anyway. The Australian Navy on the other hand is another matter and off topic.

Hope some of that makes sense.

CT



reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 06:45 AM by Vimes
reply to post by iammonkey





Well would you rather we get involved in a war like situation of
such magnitude ?

Australia has always been on the "outside" and on the neutral side of things, ( except of course for the Bush War ) which I believe is why today we are such a great country...


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 06:49 AM by Vimes
reply to post by Conspiracy Theorist




I understand exactly what you mean....

But lets say worst comes to worst, and the US being the US "forces" it's allies to fight alongside the US military machine... The whole "either your with us, or your against us US mentality"

Would it be better for Australia to be labeled enemies of the US, or to actually give in and join the fight...


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 06:51 AM by Snappahead
Not only strong ties, but legal obligations via alliances to defend one another.

Its obviously interesting to talk about such scenario's, but I think all this talk about WWIII is just wishful thinking from the paranoid set here on ATS. There's conflict now in the ME, possibility for conflict in the Balkans and other areas, but I don't beleive there's much likelehood of a world war - those days are well and truly over. If there's resources to be fought over, that's where the flashpoints will be. There could be a bit of kerfuffle over Israel and its neighbours if someone does something silly over there, but that's none of Australia's business.

I think its time Australia re-examined its relationship with the US. If I can give you an analogy...

Pretend you have a good friend you like to go to the pub with. The only problem is, when your mate gets a bit pissed up, he likes to start fights. If you are out with him, you have no choice to help him out even if he starts trouble over nothing, but pretty soon you get sick of that crap. Eventually you say to your mate that you don't want to go out with him anymore because each time you do he acts like a dickhead and starts trouble. You can still be friends, but choose not to participate in his "adventures" any more.

Australia has joined America in pretty much every conflict since WWII. We went on their silly adventure to Iraq with no strings attached and ended up getting shafted by fabricated intelligence and backdoored on trade deals from our "friends" in America. The new government has decided to pull out of Iraq, but remains comitted to the misadventure in Afghanistan...

Its time Australia looked after Australia first. After all, its not like the Americans really need us anyway.

In the unlikely event that there was a global conflict, we'd be drawn in by our alliances and by association. We host a number of very important US installations, and offer a great base of operations for Western Pacific and Indian Ocean campaigns.


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 06:55 AM by Conspiracy Theorist
reply to post by Vimes



Would it be better for Australia to be labeled enemies of the US, or to actually give in and join the fight...


In your hypothetical situation, I dont think it would matter.

First of all, the US would have its hands full dealing with the Chinese threat. Too full to notice that Australia hasnt sent their 5000 man contingent to assist.

Second of all, I dont believe that war would be conventional. Therefore the only assistance Australia could provide would be Forward Operating Bases for US bombers to deploy from.

CT



reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 07:08 AM by Vimes
reply to post by DaRAGE




Isn't South Africa part of the commonwealth too ??? why don't they get called to war ?


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 07:15 AM by Snappahead
"Our Defence policy is based on three pillars: our alliance with the United States, our membership in the United Nations, and of course our policy of comprehensive engagement in East Asia and in the wider Asia Pacific region. These are the three pillars which underpin our approach to national security policy."

source:
www.alp.org.au...

Make no mistake, the Commonwealth means jack # when it comes to Australia's Defence policy. If you ever join the military this is one of the first things you learn when you study Defence policy. Out of about 10 bullet points on the list of the objectives of the policy, defending the country comes in at about number 3. Number 1 is maintaining the alliance with the United States. Period.


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 07:17 AM by Vimes
reply to post by Snappahead




So your saying that if the United States decided to go on a all out war with the middle east/east, Australia would not hesitate to take part ?



reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 07:35 AM by Vimes
reply to post by Snappahead




I think so too, but you never know with politicians...this is making me think twice about joining the military, would have signed up full time...i think i'll just join the police force like i wanted to in the beginning



Was considering joining the Reserves and being in the police force


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 10:45 AM by Pagani
reply to post by Vimes


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