Much of the understanding of the English language is based on context.
If I say "It is raining cats and dogs", a person who understands english would know I am not saying it is literally raining cats and dogs, he would
know it was raining heavily.
You seem to have this unfounded notion that this does not apply to the Hebrew language.
We have words like "surFACE" and "preFACE" just because "FACE" is a root part of the word, does not negate it's meaning (on top of, or before,
Just like in the English, "before" can mean "in the presence of" or before in time
You seem to have neglected the Greek? Why is that?
(20) The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before[G4250] that great and notable day of the Lord come:
before(G4250) HAS ONLY ONE MEANING. And that is chronologically BEFORE in time.
EVERY USAGE in the NT is "BEFORE" IN THE CHRONOLOGICAL SENSE.
Go speak to an expert on Hebrew, and discuss with him/her the Joel 2:31 passage.
Tell him/her it does not mean before in the chronological sense and he will most likely laugh.
I do not say ask for biblical understanding, but for the understanding of the language.
This you seem to refuse to do, but resort to cherry picking meanings out of Strong's concordance with zero understanding of the actual Hebrew of the
Do you speak Hebrew natively? Or Greek? If not, then consult with an actual expert in THE LANGUAGE.
All passages below....ALL use before in the chronological sense.
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together , she was found with
child of the Holy Ghost.
Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow , thou shalt deny me thrice.
And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow , thou shalt deny me thrice.
And he went out, and wept bitterly.
And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, [even] in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.
And the second time the cock crew . And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me
thrice. And when he thought thereon , he wept .
And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
And he said , I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.
And the Lord turned , and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow , thou
shalt deny me thrice.
The nobleman saith unto him, Sir, come down ere my child die .
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was , I am .
And now I have told you before it come to pass , that, when it is come to pass , ye might believe .
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come
And he said , Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken ; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he
dwelt in Charran,
It is not the manner of the Romans to deliver any man to die, before that he which is accused have the
accusers face to face, and have licence to answer for himself concerning the crime laid against him.
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