Ronald Weinland (nothing yet...)

reply to post by DAVID64


$500 suits are not expensive. Good God, what do you dress in, salvation army hand me downs?

Well, all RW supporters have left. I guess we won after all in proving he was soooo wrong.

Ronald Weinland (nothing yet...)

The only thing prophetic is the title of this thread.

Ronald Weinland's Prophetic Success = BIG FAT ZERO.

Nothing he said ever came true.

Plus he's in jail serving time for tax fraud. Ronald Weinland is a fraud.

And yet I still don't hear from any converts to defend him? I wonder why? There is nothing to defend?

Ronald Weinland is always wrong.

Plus he's going to bring down fire (not the good kind) on his own head if he doesn't repent.

Ronald Weinland didn't learn from his previous failed prophecies....

Ron has a new false prophecy where he says Christ will return on Pentecost of 2019

The problem is he miscounted his dates that he uses to "prove" that Christ is coming in Pentecost of 2019



Ronald Weinland divides his new false prophecy into two phases

1) Phase one
Has five periods of 1260 days + one period 70 days

2) Phase two
Has two periods of 1260 days + one period 50 days




Phase #1 Is ONE DAY SHORT OF PENTECOST (he miscounted his dates, his end date falls on a Saturday)
1260 Days from Dec 17 1994 is the Saturday before Pentecost of May 31, 1998, (Saturday is May 30), so he is short a day.

Phase #2 is ONE DAY OVER PENTECOST (he miscounted his dates, his end date falls on a Monday)
1260 + 1260 + 50 days from Pentecost 2012 (MAY 27, 2012) is the Monday after Pentecost of June 9, 2019, (Monday is June 10, 2019)
So here is a day over.

I do find it fascinating how Ron was blinded, he can not hit his target dates even when he fudges it by adding extra numbers.

These numbers he uses to fudge his prophecy (70 and 50) COULD HAVE BEEN ANY NUMBERS.
It could have been 7 or 12 or 24 or whatever. But the irony is that even with these arbitrary numbers that he used to land on a Holy Day and thus attach some “meaning” to the 1260 day cycles (which aren’t cycles anyway as they are not contiguous), HE STILL GETS IT wRONg!

more details on this false prophecy and why it is wrong can be found here...

The information can be found in the comments section of this blog post.

You can use any calendar calculator you find on the web to check out for yourselves whether what Ron says is true or false.

ronaldweinland.info...

A few corrections.

Phase 1 concern:
The counting begins after the close of December 17th 1994 (12/17/1994 is not part of the count) as that day falls prior to the apostasy which occurred on that day. Beginning at sunset December 17th, 1994 = 1260 days to the beginning of Pentecost 1998 (May 30th, 1998 at sunset, beginning the 31st/Sunday) exactly 1260 days.

December 17th is omitted in the count.

Phase 2 concern:
For the second phase, it began at the start of Pentecost 2012 (sunset the prior evening, i.e. sunset May 26th) it is complete at the end of Pentecost 2019 sunset on Sunday ending the day of Pentecost (includes the day of Pentecost 2019).

Pentecost 2019 & Pentecost 2012 are included in the count.

Knowing how God's calendar works, and when days begin and end can help avoid this type of logical error moving forward.



God Bless,

I had a feeling that the "sunset" excuse would be used.

On what basis would you say it starts at sunset? Isn't it a matter of convenience?

Did the apostasy start at sunset? No it did not.

Ron states WHEN the apostasy begins, AND IT IS Dec 17 .

www.ronaldweinland.com...

Ronald Weinland "1) From the Apostasy on December 17, 1994, the man of sin, the son of perdition, Joseph W. Tkach, Sr., died exactly “280 days” after he initiated it – to the hour – which signified “God’s Judgment” upon him."

Ron does NOT SAY it began at sunset, this is simply a convenient "truth".

Dec 17 = Day 0, Dec 18 = Day 1......Day 1260 = Saturday, START OF Day 1261 IS SUNDAY at Saturday SUNSET.
Why are you speaking falsely? You know that Day 1261 is Sunday.

The calculation ALREADY EXCLUDES Dec 17.

On the 1260th Day is Saturday....you can pick which end of the sunset you want.

If you pick Friday sunset, it is the START of day 1260.

If you pick Saturday sunset, it is the END OF day 1260.

Saturday after sunset is the start of day 1261. Any other answer is just simply not true.

Ronald Weinland said that God revealed to him that after he leaves prison that he will be writing a new book for about 6 months to a year.

Note, he did NOT say that he would write a book, he said that GOD REVEALED TO HIM that he would do this.

Note, Ron states that Christ will return on Pentecost of 2019.

Ron emphatically states that the last 3 1/2 years Ron + wife will perform their duties PHYSICALLY THIS TIME.

And that the Tribulation will be PHYSICAL.

This means that the Tribulation (if you go back 1260 days), will start in December of 2015.

RON WILL STILL BE IN PRISON.

Did you realize that? Did you consider it?

So we have the rather convoluted positions:
1) Ron will not get out of prison till early 2016 and thus will NOT perform his duties at the appointed time

2) AFTER Ron gets out of prison he will (according to Ron, which was revealed to him by God) be writing a book for the 1st year of the Tribulation.

Does either make sense? No.

ElohimJD, if you were not aware of it, here is an interesting fact.

Ron claims his 5 * 1260 + 70 + 2 * 1260 +50 count between the start of the apostasy and the Second Coming is UNIQUE.

Did you know this is NOT TRUE?

In the link above if you read the posts, one of the posts LIST 8 SUCH OCCURRENCES, using Ron's own "formula" that occur on Holy Days, unlike Ron's that fall on incorrect dates and does not even start on a Holy Day.

In addition you can verify all 8 in the list using a calendar calculator such as this one....

www.timeanddate.com...

Let's see if ElohimJD's comment is actually what Ronald Weinland teaches and what Ron's current stance is.

Notice how Ron ephasizes the EXACT NATURE IN THE TIMING OF EVENT (to the hour)

(from RW's Measuring the Temple Part 2 post)

"...it was EXACTly 1335 days from the Feast of Trumpets of 2008. The probability of such an EXACT count is highly rare in actual occurrence within any grouping of calendar years..."

"...God’s hand is clearly in His design to accomplish His purpose and all this has been manifested through numerous numerical fulfillments, with many that corresponded to EXACTing dates that have led up to Pentecost 2012. The mathematical probability of all these occurring as often and as EXACT as they have is evidence in itself of that which is far, far beyond coincidence,..."

"...1) From the Apostasy on December 17, 1994, the man of sin, the son of perdition, Joseph W. Tkach, Sr., died EXACTly “280 days” after he initiated it – to the hour – which signified “God’s Judgment” upon him...."

"...after it had been scattered because of the Apostasy and was then protected from Satan during that EXACT time period...."

"...giving such EXACTing times and dates, simply magnifies the glory and power of God to purpose, design, and fulfill such a thing...."


According to the death notice Joseph Tkach Sr died at 2:30pm. So from Ron's own statement we can the take for granted that the sermon Joseph Tkach gave was around the same hour.

So the Apostasy began ON SATURDAY December 17th 1994 AT AROUND 2:30PM (around that hour).

Saturday, May 30, 1998, at 2:30pm, is 1260 DAYS LATER TO THE HOUR.

Ron does NOT COUNT SUNSET AS THE START OF THE APOSTASY.
Ron has NEVER taught that sunset was the start of the Apostasy for the simple reason that it is NOT TRUE.

originally posted by: ElohimJD


Sadly you will understand the truth in a moment. Luckily when the 26th (in the USA) arrives and the hour approaches (sunset Jerusalem on the 26th/begining of the 27th; i.e. 12-1pm EST) God will reveal the truth to those who are humble and contrite.

I follow where the truth of God lives.

God Bless,

The truth is, that this was a lie, a false prophecy. Unless God permits false prophecy to be spoken in His name then this man is a false prophet. And those that follow Ron are following a liar (just as the book of Thes. prophesied)

Ronald just had another heart attack, a few days ago. God is warning him, will he listen? I doubt it.

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib

Where is DoctorX now? I missed those debates. The poor guy must be depressed or dead by now.

Nothing yet!

a reply to: SanitySearcher

NOTHING YET !!!!

Where are you DoctorX ?