reply to post by jackinthebox
Jack, I think you and I see things much more closely than you think. It is clear there parts of issues or statutes we don’t see eye to eye
on…very much so at that. Here is a problem I see, not just with you and me, but in many people now. They agree on things, but the way they should
be implemented is where the problems start. It is a “line in the sand” that really isn’t there. We find ways hunker down and refuse to budge.
We think every issue, every debate, is a must win. I am not saying compromise is a good thing, indeed , it is treachery to yourself. However, we get
lost in the battle amongst us, and forget the larger war, the original one that brought us together in the first place, that is going on outside of
the scene we have created. When we do that, we have already lost.
Not that it makes a huge difference, but in all honesty, you could say I have a good bit of legal training and education behind me.
Here is why I don’t see the graveness of many things in the same way you do.
The very nature of the Constitutions forbids any branch of the government from taking total control. Because the Patriot Act has been written and
signed…it does not mean it is Constitutional. Just about any law can be passed. In order for it to be removed, there HAS to be a challenge. The
person challenging has show how they have been harmed. A person cannot say “It could affect me in this way.” They have to show they were indeed
affected…otherwise there is no grounds to bring it to court. It is that way with every law… including the Patriot Act. The proof in how the
courts struck down parts of the Patriot Act. If the Patriot Act was the supreme law, then they would have no say. Jack, I am no fan of the Patriot
Act. I think it is overbearing and poorly thought out. It is dangerous.
Aside from that, the Judicial Branch has stepped out of their roles in many ways too. They rule from the bench and create laws. That is not their
place…they are there to interpret the law based on the Constitution. That’s it.
As a Christian, I DO believe there will be an evil One World government someday. What is also true, though, is that every generation believes they
are the last. For me to say in no uncertain turns, yes, the end is coming soon…it is foolish and arrogant. Is that the aim of the government now?
At times it sure looks that way. I worry because many of the “social systems” we have in place are very socialist in their purpose, goals, and
implementations. Socialism is evil. It takes away the rights of a person and gives them to the Collective. And yes, I see the contradiction in my
opening thoughts on the thread with this statement. That is the exact reason I brought it up. I think the call was a good one, but at the same time
it was wrong. Lying is wrong, but being so truthful it hurts society seems just as wrong.
I feel you are being unfair to me and yourself, when you say or assume that I am not politically astute or I am ignorant of what is going on around
us because I don’ t see things in a certain way. I started this thread with hopes of getting a little back and forth, but not having it turn ugly
(my fault too). Like Damagemouse said a couple pages back, “I don’t even know what I am arguing anymore.” It could not be a truer statement.
At the same time, though, I think it proves what I was saying. We are on the way to losing everything, because we get bogged down like this.