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Being baptized with Fire.
Baptism is held to be necessary both necessitate medii and præcepti. This doctrine is rounded on the words of Christ. In John 3, He declares: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he can not enter into the kingdom of God." Christ makes no exception to this law and it is therefore general in its application, embracing both adults and infants. It is consequently not merely a necessity of precept but also a necessity of means.
Originally posted by jakyll
But that is not all,is it?
Matthew 19:16-19.
John 13:34-35.
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:15.
(here the plural is used.Jesus had more than 1 commandment.)
Matthew 5;19.
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38 This is the first and great commandment.39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Baptism is also a very important part of salvation,after all,Jesus himself was baptized by John.
Originally posted by Incarnated
What percentage of "Truth" do you percieve the bible to be???
Originally posted by AshleyD
You stopped at verse 19 but if you keep reading, Jesus also told this rich young man that he must also give all of his worldly possession to the poor. So what's going on? He never told anyone else to do such a thing. Because the young man was being tested. He said he already obeyed the ten commandments, did "good," followed the law, and the other things you listed because he thought he had to "earn" his way into Salvation. So Jesus implied that still wasn't enough. If you are going to to try to come through works, then you better go all the way (which He also said was impossible).
Originally posted by AshleyD
But this does not mean we abandon everything
because He also says to be good stewards with what we have, to use our wealth (a gift from God)
to help the less fortunate, to tend to our families and children (you cannot support children and spouses if you are an unemployed vagabond),
Go to school, get a job, get married, raise your kids, etc.
Originally posted by Shawn B.
Wealth doesn't mean money. Jesus was really against money, he makes his stance on it VERY clear.
No, Jesus never said that. In fact Jesus spoke against marriage.
And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 20:34
Originally posted by AshleyD
Jesus wasn't a deadbeat. He had a job, too. He paid taxes, tithed, and did things that took... money. The love of money is what traps people. Not money itself. It is needed to take care of our families, the needy, sick, and poor. I don't understand what is so difficult.
That's a misquote. He says we, human beings (mortals), get married but once we get to heaven we will be like the angels who do not marry. He was answering the Sadducees' (remember, that sect did not believe in an afterlife) question when they tried to trap him by asking if a woman is married to multiple men in this life, who is she married to in Heaven. Jesus responded with what I explained- no one is married in Heaven.
"The people of this age [humans on earth] marry and are given to marriage [True. Humans marry]. But those who are worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection [In Heaven, the afterlife] will neither marry or be given in marriage [not be married] and they can no longer die [because they already did] for they are like the angels.
Originally posted by Shawn B.
See your putting words in my mouth, I never said or implyed he was a deadbeat. lol
How can you be sure he had a job?
We get his life form 12 then a huge gap is missing till the time he starts REALLY preaching and by that time he and his follwers have given up all like I pointed out. I never said we should help people either. No peoples need for money traps people. Jesus spoke against money plain and simple.
No, see, that's how you take it
Jesus clearly speaks against marriage.
Your putting in your interpretations to justfy what you think.
The 2,500-year-old black stone seal, which has the name "Temech" engraved on it, was found earlier this week amid stratified debris in the excavation under way just outside the Old City walls near the Dung Gate, said archeologist Dr. Eilat Mazar, who is leading the dig. According to the Book of Nehemiah, the Temech family were servants of the First Temple and were sent into exile to Babylon following its destruction by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The Bible refers to the Temech family: "These are the children of the province, that went up out of the captivity, of those that had been carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried away, and came again to Jerusalem and to Judah, every one unto his city." [Nehemiah 7:6]... "The Nethinim [7:46]"... The children of Temech." [7:55].
"The seal of the Temech family gives us a direct connection between archeology and the biblical sources and serves as actual evidence of a family mentioned in the Bible," she said. "One cannot help being astonished by the credibility of the biblical source as seen by the archaeological find."
Originally posted by Legalizer
The absolute reply is NO
The bible is full of fiction and fantasies.
Time Magazine, The Bible Fact or Fiction
On the other hand, say many scholars, much of what is recorded in the Bible is at best distorted, and some characters and events are probably totally fictional. Most scholars suspect that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Judaism's traditional founders, never existed; many doubt the tales of slavery in Egypt and the Exodus; and relatively few modern historians believe in Joshua's conquest of Jericho and the rest of the Promised Land. In the most extreme view, all of the above are complete fabrications, invented centuries after the supposed fact.
The believers in the bible are just as distorted as these tales.
The Bible is an ancient comic book, and its believers are nothing more than rabid comic book fans.
Whose more powerful Jesus only son of god, or Jor-el only son of krpton?
Superman is a fiction created by jews too, coincidence?
Originally posted by Nohup
Well, the Bible mentions some interesting things, one of them being a cockatrice. Anybody who thinks the Bible is infallible and absolute ought to go hunting for a cockatrice. Even a skeleton will do.
Originally posted by Nohup
Well, the Bible mentions some interesting things, one of them being a cockatrice. Anybody who thinks the Bible is infallible and absolute ought to go hunting for a cockatrice. Even a skeleton will do.
Originally posted by Incarnated
Your words are meaningless to me because you don't really understand. It's not given to you to understand it. It is beyond you at this time
In the "end" I'll be proven exactly what I've said I am. Try not to make too big of an ass (mule) of yourself on my account.
Your words are meaningless to me