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The Astronauts Thread

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posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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I was wondering, maybe we can form a thread with all the astronauts that support the UFO alien teory, trying to form it with the most reliable sources and data. Personal info of the astronaut, professional backround and his/her statements/teory/allegations.

Wikipedia it´s not perfect but i like it for a start. I´ve tried to avoid all kind of www.ufo100%true.com / www.ufobiblegreyspleyades.com / www.quoteswithnogenuinesources.com.

Please take an special aproach on Story Musgrave: in his own personal webpage, he says that he doesn´t believe in an ufo conspiracy and that he has never seen an UFO, he just makes some remarkables comments of his beliefs. It doesn´t fit the title or the soul of the thread, but i found it interesting in some way. I´m saying this, because this story:


www.agoracosmopolitan.com...


was making some noise a while ago. Originally, is from here:


www.stargate-chronicles.com...


But because Musgrave own page doesn´t mention anything about those article allegations, and there is no other genuine certification for the info in those articles, i wouldn´t take it for real; not for questioning the Stargate-Chronicles author at all, just because there is no other "genuine source" for corroborating, even Musgrave own site.



Let me start with five, 3 americans and 2 russians.

Hope you join or at least comment.

Sorry for my english.



Edgar Mitchell




en.wikipedia.org...




Edgar Dean Mitchell, Sc.D. (born September 17, 1930) is an American pilot and astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, he spent nine hours of February 9, 1971 moonwalking on the Fra Mauro formation; he was the sixth man to walk on the Moon.

Mitchell was selected to be an astronaut in 1966 and was seconded from the Navy to NASA. He was backup lunar module pilot for Apollo 10 and flew (again as LM pilot) on Apollo 14. Together with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard he holds the record for the longest ever moonwalk (9 hours and 17 minutes) and travelled further on the surface than anyone else. [2] Apollo 14 was his only spaceflight. Ed Mitchell remained with NASA until he retired from the Navy in 1972.

Ed Mitchell was awarded honorary doctorates from the New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University and Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.

Mitchell was portrayed by Gary Cole in the 1998 miniseries From the Earth to the Moon.

Mitchell has publicly expressed his opinions that "he is 90 per cent sure that many of the thousands of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, recorded since the 1940s, belong to visitors from other planets"[5] and that UFOs have been the "subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and to create confusion so the truth doesn't come out."[6] In 2004 he told the St. Petersburg Times that a "cabal of insiders" inside the US Government were studying recovered alien bodies, and that this group had stopped briefing US Presidents after John F. Kennedy.[7] He has said, that "We all know that UFOs are real, now the question is, where they come from." [8]





posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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Gordon Cooper



en.wikipedia.org...




Leroy Gordon "Gordo" Cooper, Jr. (March 6, 1927 – October 4, 2004) was an American astronaut. He was one of the original astronauts in Project Mercury, the first manned-space effort by the United States.

Cooper's first flight assignment was in Landstuhl, West Germany in 1950, where he flew F-84 Thunderjets and F-86 Sabres for four years; he also attended the European Extension of the University of Maryland while overseas. Upon returning to the United States and after two more years of study at the Air Force Institute of Technology in Ohio, he completed his bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering in 1957. Cooper was then assigned to the Experimental Flight Test School at Edwards Air Force Base in California until 1957. When he graduated from the school, he was posted to the Flight Test Engineering Division at Edwards, where he served as a test pilot and project manager testing the F-102A and F-106B.[1]

Cooper logged more than 7,000 hours of flight time, with 4,000 hours in jet aircraft. He flew all types of commercial and general aviation airplanes and helicopters.

Astronaut career

While at Edwards, Cooper read an announcement saying that a contract had been awarded to McDonnell Aircraft in St. Louis, Missouri to build a space capsule. This intrigued him, and shortly after reading this announcement he was called to Washington, D.C. for a NASA briefing on Project Mercury and the part astronauts would play in it. Cooper went through the selection process with the other 109 pilots, and was not surprised when he was accepted as one of the first seven American astronauts.

Awards and decorations

During his life, Cooper received numerous awards, including the Air Force Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross with oak leaf clusters, the NASA Exceptional Achievement Medal, the Collier Trophy, the Harmon Trophy, the DeMolay Legion of Honor, the John F. Kennedy Trophy, the Iven C. Kincheloe Award, the University of Hawaii Regents Medal, and the Columbus Medal. He was a Master Mason (member of Carbondale Lodge 82 in Carbondale, Colorado) and a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason.

Cooper was a member of several groups and societies, including the Society of Experimental Test Pilots, the American Astronautical Society, Scottish Rite, York Rite, Shriners, Rotary Club, Order of Daedalians, Confederate Air Force, and Boy Scouts of America.

Cooper claimed that the U.S. government was covering up information about UFOs. He said he had seen his first UFO while flying over West Germany in 1951[2] and wrote in his memoirs that he had seen other unexplained aircraft several times during his career. Cooper also stated that there were hundreds of reports made by other pilots, many coming from military jet pilots sent to respond to radar or visual sightings from the ground.[3][4] He was convinced until the day he died that he had seen UFOs.[3] He described his sighting for the documentary Out of the Blue in a live interview.

After leaving NASA, Cooper served on several corporate boards and as technical consultant for more than a dozen different companies, in fields ranging from high performance boat design to energy, construction, and aircraft design. He worked for The Walt Disney Company as a vice-president for research and development for Epcot in the 1970s. Later, he went into business with Bill Paynter, a fellow Air Force colonel and who in retirement was pilot to Ronald Reagan during his days as governor of California.[5] They hired several retired engineers from the Lockheed Corporation and Northrop and created engineering redesigns of existent high performance aircraft beginning with the delta wing series of fighters.[citation needed]


Cooper received an honorary doctorate of science degree from Oklahoma State University in 1967. He wrote a book, Leap of Faith (ISBN 0-06-019416-2), which chronicled his experiences with the Air Force and NASA as well as his efforts to expose an alleged UFO conspiracy theory. Cooper was also a major contributor to the book In the Shadow of the Moon , published after his death, which captured his final published thoughts on his life and career.




posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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Pavel Popovich




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Pavel Romanovich Popovich , Pavel Romanovich Popovich; born October 5, 1930 in Uzyn, Kiev Oblast of Ukrainian SSR, was a Soviet cosmonaut of Ukrainian descent, arguably the first ethnic Ukrainian to fly in space.

Popovich commanded two space flights, Vostok 4 and Soyuz 14. His call sign in these flights was Golden eagle.

In 1960, he was selected as one of a group of twenty air force pilots that would train as the first cosmonauts. Vostok 4 was part the first dual space flight, with Andrian Nikolayev on Vostok 3.

He retired from the space programme in 1982. In 1984 Popovich joined the Academy of Sciences newly created All-Union Investigation Committee for Anomalous Aerial Phenomena and became head of the Academy's UFO Commission. Nowadays he is the president of UFO association of Russia and the chairman of Ukrainian diaspora organisation in Russia.

He is married to Marina Popovich, a retired Soviet Air Force colonel, engineer, and legendary Soviet test pilot who has been outspoken about UFO reality. They have two daughters.






Marina Popovich




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Marina Popovich is a retired Soviet Air Force colonel, engineer, and legendary Soviet test pilot who has been outspoken about UFO reality.

She wrote a book called UFO Glasnost (published in Germany) and given public lectures and interviews. She has mentioned over 3000 UFO sightings by Soviet military and civilian pilots. Although qualifying that her statements are not official, she says that the Soviet Air Force and KGB have fragments of five crashed UFOs in their possession. The crash sites mentioned were Tunguska (1908), Novosibirsk, Tallinn/Estonia, Ordzhonikidze/Caucasus, and Dalnegorsk (1986). Popovich said debris was analyzed and the conclusion was that it wasn't manufactured on Earth with terrestrial technology.

She is married to Pavel Popovich, a former Soviet cosmonaut. They have two daughters.




posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:40 PM
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Story Musgrave




en.wikipedia.org...



Franklin Story Musgrave (born August 19, 1935) is an American doctor and a retired NASA astronaut. He is currently a public speaker and consultant to both Disney's Imagineering group and Applied Minds in California.

He is a member of Alpha Kappa Psi, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Beta Gamma Sigma, the Civil Aviation Medical Association, the Flying Physicians Association, the International Academy of Astronautics, the Marine Corps Aviation Association, the National Aeronautic Association, the National Aerospace Education Council, the National Geographic Society, the Navy League, the New York Academy of Sciences, Omicron Delta Kappa, Phi Delta Theta, the Soaring Club of Houston, the Soaring Society of America and the United States Parachute Association.

Awards and honors

* National Defense Service Medal and an Meritorious Unit Commendation as a member of the United States Marine Corps Squadron VMA-212 (1954)
* United States Air Force Post-doctoral Fellowship (1965–1966)
* National Heart Institute Post-doctoral Fellowship (1966–1967)
* Reese Air Force Base Commander's Trophy (1969)
* American College of Surgeons I.S. Ravdin Lecture (1973)
* NASA Exceptional Service Medals, (1974, 1986)
* Flying Physicians Association Airman of the Year Award (1974 & 1983)
* NASA Space Flight Medals, (1983, 1985, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1996)
* NASA Distinguished Service Medal, (1992)

Medical career

Musgrave was employed as a mathematician and operations analyst by the Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester, New York, during 1958.

He served a surgical internship at the University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington from 1964 to 1965, and continued there as a U. S. Air Force post-doctoral fellow (1965–1966), working in aerospace medicine and physiology, and as a National Heart Institute post-doctoral fellow (1966–1967), teaching and doing research in cardiovascular and exercise physiology. From 1967 to 1989, he continued clinical and scientific training as a part-time surgeon at Denver General Hospital (presently known as Denver Health Medical Center) and as a part-time professor of physiology and biophysics at the University of Kentucky Medical Center.

He has written twenty five scientific papers in the areas of aerospace medicine and physiology, temperature regulation, exercise physiology, and clinical surgery.

[edit] NASA career

Musgrave was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August 1967. He completed astronaut academic training and then worked on the design and development of the Skylab Program. He was the backup science-pilot for the first Skylab mission, and was a CAPCOM for the second and third Skylab missions. Musgrave participated in the design and development of all Space Shuttle extravehicular activity equipment including spacesuits, life support systems, airlocks and manned maneuvering units. From 1979 to 1982, and 1983 to 1984, he was assigned as a test and verification pilot in the Shuttle Avionics Integration Laboratory at JSC.

He served as a spacecraft communicator (CAPCOM) for STS-31, STS-35, STS-36, STS-38 and STS-41, and lead CAPCOM for a number of subsequent flights. He was a mission specialist on STS-6 in 1983, STS-51-F/Spacelab-2 in 1985, STS-33 in 1989 and STS-44 in 1991, was the payload commander on STS-61 in 1993, and a mission specialist on STS-80 in 1996. A veteran of six space flights, Musgrave has spent a total of 1281 hours 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space.

Musgrave is the only astronaut to have flown missions on all five Space Shuttles. Prior to John Glenn's return to space in 1998, Musgrave held the record for the oldest person in orbit, at age 62. He retired from NASA in 1997.




Story Musgrave's official site quotes:


www.spacestory.com...


"Oh, mentally I'm way out there", he says with a chuckle. "I believe intelligence is everywhere. There are billions of intelligences -- other living forms, other creations, other evolutions. I think scientifically it's a certainty." Musgrave is critical of UFO buffs who take snippets of astronauts' conversations and construe them as sightings. But he is open-minded about the possibility of contacting other intelligences."



www.spacestory.com...



"I believe, and scientifically I am certain, that there are endless other living forms out there, including intelligent sentient beings. With the size of the Universe that we have, the billions of galaxies, the distances and scales, and the billions of years that things have been around, of course there are other living forms out there, and of course there are other intelligent forms. It is anthrocentric thinking to believe that we are the only ones

In terms of personally seeing any kind of evidence, I have seen glorious things out there, but I have never seen anything which I consider having the signature of life or an intelligent being. I see little pieces of ice, sparklets, that dance out there and go away from you as they rotate in the sunlight in linear fashion. They turn on and off like little fireflies in space. I also have seen what I call "Story's Snake" out there. I do not know how large this object is because I do not know how far away it was, but twice I have seen it. It has internal motions, almost like a very flexible rubber hose, but you can see it just swimming out there like an eel. This is all part of the debris the shuttle puts off as soon as the main engines shutdown. Sometimes, you also see meteorites flying under you, the falling stars, they do not come in above, they come underneath you between the shuttle and Earth. There are all kinds of glorious light shows and 'Fourth of July's' out there, but I have never, myself, seen anything which had the signature of life. Although, as I have said, I know there are entire universes of living forms out there"




posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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Orion!

Excellent, thank you for taking the initiative to compile this data. Certainly Astronaut testimony (in my mind) is compelling evidence in and of itself. I've flagged and starred this thread. I look forward to examining your results once compiled. If I should find time in my own data compilations, or if I come across such testimony, I will certainly add to your thread.

Your work has impressed me since I recently joined Orion. Organizing data like this can only help all of us, skeptics and believers alike. Keep it up!



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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And for people who don't trust the written word, it's even more compelling hearing it come from their own mouths on video. Here are Gordon Cooper and Buzz Aldrin videos I put up online.

www.youtube.com...

s127.photobucket.com...

NASA Audio Communications about UFOs (Bogies) here:

www.youtube.com...


----- NASA Quotes -----

"All Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence."
--Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems.

"Mission control, We have a UFO pacing our position, request instructions!"
-- Astronaut Cady Coleman NASA transmission shuttle mission STS-73

"In my official status, I cannot comment on ET contact. However, personally, I can assure you, we are not alone!"
--Charles J. Camarda (Ph.D.) NASA Astronaut

"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."
--NASA's Scott Carpenter

"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth." --Colonel L. Gordon Cooper (Mercury 9, Gemini-5 Astronaut)



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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I have to admit I have always been puzzled by Neil Armstrongs words on the 25th anniversary of the Lunar Landing.




posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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Great info.....going forward, we must be careful in how we interpret NASA transmissions (whether written or verbal) regarding "unidentified" objects as they may find using that term (or similar terms) an effective means of "throwing off" those looking for verbal evidence of unexplainable objects in space. It's the combination of visual and verbal evidence gleaned from NASA transmissions that those searching for additional data to support intelligently controlled space objects will continue to find useful. Unless something remarkable takes place, these transmissions may become irrelevant to those searching for UFO data if NASA decides to stay on the road of trickery and deception.......



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Thank you all for your inputs! Hope we can make this thread more interesting.

As you can see, i try to stick to Wikipedia, astronaut´s own site´s quotes and another "official" or recognized sources (sounds naive, but im still avoiding other pro-ufo-alien sources, just to avoid the pseudo-skeptiks).



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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UPDATE: Added Dr. Brian_O'Leary

Dr. Brian O'Leary



en.wikipedia.org...'Leary
(I can´t post the Wikipedia link correctly, don´t know why; but you can find it easy, just Google "brian o´leary wikipedia" and you will find the link inmediately).




Brian Todd O'Leary is an American scientist and a former NASA astronaut. He was one of the sixth group of astronauts selected by NASA in August 1967. This group of eleven were known as the scientist-astronauts, intended to train for the Apollo Applications Program -- a follow-on to the moon landings.
As the number of missions of what was to be called "Skylab" were curtailed, the scientist-astronauts had plenty of spare time on their hands. They nicknamed themselves the 'XS-11'. O'Leary himself resigned in disgust and wrote about the experience in his first book, The Making of an Ex-Astronaut.
O'Leary was the deputy team leader for NASA Mariner 10 Venus-Mercury television science team. He has authored five other popular books and over 100 peer-reviewed articles in the field of planetary science and astronautics[1].




www.spacefacts.de...



Bachelor of arts in physics from Williams College, 1961; master of Arts in Astronomy from Georgetown University, 1964; Ph.D. in astronomy from the University of California, Berkeley, 1967; resigned from active duty of problems in flight training; worked on Cornell University and CalTech; later chairman, board of directors, Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space; he currently lives in Ecuador.




Brian_O'Leary Own Website:

www.brian-oleary.com...





Brian Todd O'Leary

Professor, Former Astronaut, Futurist, Author, Space and Energy Scientist,

Education:

B.A., physics, Williams College, 1961
M.A., astronomy, Georgetown University, 1964
Ph.D., astronomy, Univ. of Calif., Berkeley, 1967



www.brianoleary.com...




"The month of May this year proved to be an important one: Meredith and I travelled to Montreal to speak at the annual Int'l Inst. of Integral Human Sciences conference (www.iiihs.org) and went on a Mediterranean cruise (www.pqievents.com) to speak about new energy and truth-telling in general (911 truth, war truth, new energy truth, electoral fraud truth, fiscal truth, UFO truth, etc). Also I appeared on the History Channel on a special about astronauts and UFO cover-ups. They came all the way down to Montesueños to do the filming. May we lighten up our spirits and enjoy this year, filled with laughter and raised consciousness, mixed with an authentic desire to seek the truth, reconcile it in our hearts, and move into those actions we will need to take to save our precious planet."



www.brian-oleary.com...




"But we need more: a restoration of truth in our public discourse. For only the truth can set us free from the tyranny that so imprisons us. We need to look squarely again at 9/11 truth, at depleted uranium truth, at war pretext truth, at torture truth, at electoral fraud truth, at solution energy truth, at UFO/ET truth, and all the other truths that our cancerous tyranny is trying to destroy."



www.newfrontier.com... (OK, newfrontier maybe can´t be considered as an 100% reliable source, but we can cleary see that Brian O´Leary´s point of view about the UFO Phenomena agrees 100% with the alien teory, as we can see even from his own website).




"Virato: Brian, the Crop Circles don't seem to go away, and I know that you have been involved in a lot of other work since we last met some four years ago. How is what you are doing now relate to the Crop Circle phenomenon, and UFOs in general?

O'Leary: I first saw crop circles in 1991 in England. I then wrote a whole chapter on the subject in my book The Second Coming of Science. In the book, I questioned the physical process by which they are formed. I believe that it is an electromagnetic energy, or force field--a psychokenetic thing--where whatever consciousness impinges on the wheat
stalks causes the base of the wheat stalks to temporarily become plastic and bend over without being broken or and then very quickly resolidify, and continue to grow quite normally. The Crop Circle phenomenon, besides the hoaxed ones, is a very real phenomenon created by some unknown, probably non-human intervention."




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