Originally posted by tezzajw
There you go, MrdDstrbr, never assume things about Cult Greer. They're liars, as simple as that. It seems that your constant name dropping for Cult Greer is proving fruitless, as other people wash their hands of it and deny any contact with the Cult.

I "name drop" for ECETI and CSETI because I believe they are legitimate groups that have indeed been experiencing Contact. And it would be good for ATS to make the effort to properly investigate them some day.

When that happens, the Aliens & UFOs forum will finally be able to accomplish something useful beyond these standard recurring debates,

"This footage is real." "No it's a hoax." "No it's real...."
"Aliens are real. They are proven." "No they're not." "Yes they are...."
"Aliens are good." "No they're evil." "No they're good...."
"Greer is credible." "No he's not." "Yes he is...." etc etc.

I am in and out today and will be back later in the day to get back on track here. Sorry, but today I have a crazy schedule.

Jose Escamilla

I do realise that in order for proof or conclusive evidence to be produced for all to see requires jumping through many hoops and imaginably a long and drawn out process, but i'm seriously perplexed about the way this thread started.

I am here to keep up to date on UFO news and information that may finally shed light on a subject that has fascinated me since i can remember, if this subject didn't exist i would be helpless. It's a passion that won't go away.

So you see, when you are presented with "Evidence" that we are seeing here i look for two things.

1. How credible is the image or footage that i'm looking at?, what am i actually SEEING?

2. The EVIDENCE to back it up. I want to SEE it, touch it and finally understand.

What i am seeing here looks amazing, but just like the images being cloudy, the release of disclosure is equally so because there is money to be made here.

Jose,

I have never come across you before and i welcome you here to the marvel that is ATS. We are not stupid here and if we want to explore your work we can google your name and see your DVD's.

I'm not here to shop.

If i was working with somebody who had irrefutable evidence that Spacecraft was orbiting this earth, or if indeed i was that person filming it, the matter of laying it on dvd and selling it would be secondary because i would walk from the shadows and put it in the peoples hands for them to actually see it.

If you were looking for the money your notoriety alone would make you the most recognisable person on the planet.

Since this thread is a Q & A i wondered if i could just ask you this.. Did you come here to disclose proof of the subject matter or did you come here to raise peoples awareness of who you are? I started reading the threads and really felt for your plight but your little sponsorship plug smelled rank.

Sorry MrdDstrbr no disrespect to you,

I have posted my question to Jose in the relevant thread.

I have seen the UFO- Greates Story Ever Denied, and it was a great movie. Top UFO documentaries out there with the NASA Trasmissions - smoking gun and Out of the Blue.

I did not know who the maker of this movie was- quite frankly, it held me no interest. Now that Mr. Escamilla is making clear who made this movie and there is more to come- just see the trailers - I feel bit disappointed.

I do not like how this is turning out.

Its an absolute pleasure to be able to communicate with you Mr Escamilla.

Would like to congratulate you again on your work/research on the whole UFO/RODS subject; which I have been aware of for many years.

First things first, people moaning about Jose making money (and/or trying to make money) not recieving a dvd or something is IMO pathetic.
The documentries/conference presentations by Jose are about spreading awareness and video evidence of UFO's/RODS/Orbs.

Any subject will only get recognised by the mainstream media with substantial funds.
For example, Climate Change (regardless of our opinion on it) has over the last few years been catapulted to the centre of mainstream media/tv coverage and Government's involvement in the subject.
This is IMO because the Man behind the documentry 'An Inconvenient Truth', is very wealthy and so has the power to influence the mainstream media by promoting the subject properly and powerfully with the substantial funding needed to create such awarness of a subject.

So without plenty of substantial finantial backing, its difficult to get a subject recognised properly I think.

Mr Escamilla, about the light spectrum issue (many UFO's/Rods can ony be seen in Ultra violet/Infra-Red), have you not considered trying to set up you own UV/IR cameras and start searching the sky for unusual activity?

Wish you all the best Jose, carry on your excellent research.
Alex Z London, U.K.

[edit on 17-12-2007 by intrepid]

Originally posted by bmpemb
Hi Jose, I've wanted to see "The Greatest Story Ever Denied" for some time now. I just watched the first 65 minutes, the connection locked up at that point, so I'll watch the rest later. I must say it's very interesting and have enjoyed what I've seen so far.
I just have a few questions and comments;
1. Have you considered contacting the Sc-Fi or History Channel? It seems to me that this is something they would love to air, or maybe even help with funding for future projects.
2. I would have liked to hear some of the witnesses actual testimony, not just that they are prepared to testify under oath before Congress.

Thank You for posting here, and for all of the work you've done and continue to do. And I hope all of the controversial issues can be resolved peacefully.

Thank You and God Bless

First of all the film that has been uploaded is a bootleg, so I had nothing to do with that, but in February 2008, I making all my films available for free on You Tube, Google and My Space and any other web sites who will carry the films. At that time, you will all finally see my films the way they should be seen, high quality, in full and FREE!

Later - Jose

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
[sarcasm] I personally would like to thank Jose for continuing to make those of us really interested in this hobby look like fools, hoaxers and ignorant Trekkie schmucks [/sarcasm]

Seriously though, the more and more you guys want to push this type of utter bunk, the more and more this hobby will be taken less seriously. Jose's stuff is nothing more than entertainment geared towards a niche' audience, NOTHING more. To put legitimacy behind such obvious tripe is doing yourself, and this hobby damage.

One word....RODS!! (seriously am laughing out loud right now)

Your moniker fits you. "ignore the facts" there is nothing else to say to you is there? Jose Escamilla

Originally posted by AlexZ_UK
Its an absolute pleasure to be able to communicate with you Mr Escamilla.

Mr Escamilla, about the light spectrum issue (many UFO's/Rods can ony be seen in Ultra violet/Infra-Red), have you not considered trying to set up you own UV/IR cameras and start searching the sky for unusual activity?

Wish you all the best Jose, carry on your excellent research.
Alex Z London, U.K.

AlexZ, thanks for your warm regards, I really appreciate it! We have some projects where I guarantee we are going to shake some benches. Can't go into it as we are in development on certain projects, but we have one that's going to be a "big bang!" None of this evasive stuff as we're enduring with the interstellar materials. I pull no punches and I present it all right there for you. So 2008, is going to be a year of delivery on my part. I have some very cool people with me on this by the way!

Thanks for being here AlexZ.

Jose Escamilla