Bases around AREA51

Just having a look at google maps and the other dry lakes around area 51 and saw that to the SW of groomlake their is another large installation and was just wondering if anybody new what they do there.

reply to post by neo2012


I'm not "new", but if you check any map you'll see there are several airfields southwest of A-51 including:

Pahute Mesa
Yucca Lake
Desert Rock

Some of those are little more than hardpack dirt airstrips, so without a map showing what the heck you're talking about, that's the best I can do.

ok in the link maps.google.co.uk... u have area51. zoom out and there is another drylake underneath with another drylake to the west of that. This is the installation i was wondering about.

reply to post by neo2012


Your link gives me nothing.

If you had bothered to look at my links, you'd have seen that this is Yucca Lake.

Here's a good link:

Wikimapia - Nevada

Hover your cursor over the boxes to give text info.

HTH.

ok thank you. the link shows nothing in the map box unless you change the view to satellite (should of mentioned that). The wiki links explains what it was. Thank you.

reply to post by neo2012


Am I the only one still in the dark here? The OP's site gives me a map of the UK and Badge01's link gives me info on the bases he referenced. I'm still not sure of what installation neo2012's acutally looking at. Any chance of a Lon/Lat reference?

If the map doesnt work go to google maps type in area51 zoom out till u see 3 dry bed lakes including area51. The base i was talking about over laps with the groom lake testing site. However it was yucca lake.

reply to post by neo2012


On my PC using FireFox, and java enabled the boxes appear in any or all views. So the problem must have been with your browser, or whether you had Java enabled.

Mentioning the browser type and java script is a bit beyond the norm. You're expected to know that and of course how to use the mouse, but I did give you instructions on that. Did you discover that if you actually click the boxes you get an info box which anyone can add more text. Pretty cool!

Glad to be of help. BTW, what was the significance of your initial request? What's so special about Yucca Lake?




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I just wondered what went on at a base so close to area51. Also the strange bumps in the desert above it, which i found out was the groom lake testing site. Any ideas what the strange bumps are?

reply to post by neo2012


Okay, Thanks. I don't know what all those areas are used for, but I was out there in the same general area of the Nuclear test areas with a Special ops group back in 91. The exercise was mainly insertion/extraction training. The whole week we were there, we had to wear dosimeters. I heard on Tuesday that there was going to be a nuclear test on Thursday, then Thursday morning, the ground shook and in Fridays paper, there was an announcement about how an earthquake had struck the area. I lost the clipping and haven't located my orders to confirm the date to verify an internet article I read. Can't prove it, but I doubt it was an earthquake.

Thanks paraclete. Great story.

Working close to the base did you ever see or hear anything which you thought was strange.

reply to post by neo2012


Sadly, No. At that point, I wasn't into the UFO/area 51 stuff like I am now. I wish I could do it over again. If the internet had been as popular then as it is now, I might have. But in those days, we were doing good to find anykind of BBS that wasn't all about porn.

BBSes the early days of the internet. wish i had been on the net when these were popular. Although spending a long time getting connected probably wasnt much fun.

In my opinion, i think with the media circus surrounding the base after bob lazar there wont be much going on and it makes sense to move the operations some where else.

Do you know much about the underground status of that area.
Although, most people think that underground bases house all sorts of secrets when really most are made because military sites are far more likely to get hit in a war and therefore are slightly more safer underground.

Originally posted by neo2012
...Do you know much about the underground status of that area.
Although, most people think that underground bases house all sorts of secrets when really most are made because military sites are far more likely to get hit in a war and therefore are slightly more safer underground.

I've not aware of any underground bases in the area, though on a Maintenance check flight for one on the MH-53J's I was riding on, I did see a set of railroad tracks that entered the side of a sand dune. There was nothing else in the area to indicate any kind of activity in the area. i.e no roads, building, etc.

On the other side of the world, I was surprised to find out that there's a large underground facility located within the area of the military side of the Kuwait International Airport. A coworker had a friend who had access and he arranged for us to go into it. I don't know the full size of it, but there was a hallway wide enough to allow two vehicles to pass side by side and several rooms. We went into a room being used for weapon and ammuntion storage. I have pictures of me holding several of them somewhere.

Again, I wish Google Earth would have been around then so I could have located it. After 16 years, things have changed and I can't be sure of where the nevada base or Kuwaits underground entrances were located for sure, but I do think I have found the Nevada location where I was. Several of the landmarks fit the memories.

The only other exciting thing about my Nevada TDY was seeing a POW camp out in the desert and riding in the PAVE LOW III at 200' below sealevel (Death Valley).

I think its fascinating to talk to someone who has had experiences in the area close to the base.
The train track is cool as it means if it were going undergound they could take tons and tons of supplies into the base without a road for cars to follow along.
If anywhere these are the places which will house sensitive information. They dont stand out like area 51. One train track is harder to find on satelite pictures than a base with a ?mile long landing strip.
People say that area 51 keeps the secret stuff away when satelites go overhead but there are to many of them to make this a viable method to test secret aircraft.
It would make more sense to move on and start again.

Originally posted by neo2012
...One train track is harder to find on satelite pictures than a base with a ?mile long landing strip. ...

That's a fact, I tried looking for it, the TDY Location, and the POW Camp for a while on Google earth, I found the reamains of something that looked like the camp, but haven't found any tracks yet. Was going to try and follow some tracks out of Vegas, then though about the fact that they may be something private and not connected to the nation wide system. It's possible that they could orginate in a private trucking terminal and go to the underground location and back. I remember that the USAF had a train engine at Moody AFB in Ga back in the 80's. Never saw it move, but if there's one, there's probably more. But I'll keep looking for it while I check out the area.

These are what people should use google earth for, the little things.
The problem with google earth is people zoom into a building post it on ats and say theyve found part of the dulce base or assume that it is a secret building.
Google earth is a hell of a tool. Nearly know where is off limits. You can look at places from the comfort of your desk. The problem is some people are more bothered about hits and starting a thread with "DULCE base entrance found" with a picture of a building in close proximity to the mesa which turns out to be a truck stop or just a warehouse are going to generate interest.
The places that are secret are well hidden from satelites, they had plenty of practice what with the cold war . However a large base needs plenty of supplies and nobody would follow a train track for miles and miles because it isnt interesting, but this is the sort of thing people need to look at.
I,m sorry i cant share any experiences with you accept a few strange ufo sightings. I can only offer you my thoughts on the subject.

Ya there are a number of bases around area 51. I know for sure there are over 5 bases, including Area 51 itself, S-2,S-4, and Groom Lake. There are more but i can't remember how many.

Well, right there in Nevada, Area 51 is more or less just a restricted are of Nellis Air Force Base.

But hey, you know, I would venture to guess that most of the real secret stuff has been moved from that area. Too much attention there... They like it that way though. Think of it like a magicians slight of hand. They have us all looking to Nevada when all the real stuff is taking place in Colorado or Utah, or something like that you know?

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oh yeah that's from the bomb range and they are not bumps, they are holes.