Originally posted by jackinthebox


If Vampires do exist, I do not believe that Vlad Tepesch was, or is, one of them. The true history of this man is mired in controversey as well, but I tend to believe that he was perhaps one of the most brutal Humans to ever live.

His Romanian surname Drǎculea, is derived from his father's title Dracul, meaning affiliation to and/or descent from "Dracul" (see Vlad II Dracul); the latter was a member of the Order of the Dragon created by Emperor Sigismund. Vlad's family had two factions, the Drăculeşti and the Dăneşti. The word "dracul" means "the Devil" in modern Romanian but in Vlad's day also meant "dragon" or "demon", and derives from the Latin word Draco, also meaning "dragon".

His post-mortem moniker of Ţepeş (Impaler) originated in his preferred method for executing his opponents, impalement — as popularized by medieval Transylvanian pamphlets. In Turkish, he was known as "Kazıklı Bey" IPA: [kɑzɨkˈɫɨ] which means "Impaler Prince". Vlad was referred to as Dracula in a number of documents of his times, mainly the Transylvanian Saxon pamphlets and The Annals of Jan Długosz.

taken from wikipedia, as i still have no idea how to do external quotes yet.. sorry

so as you can see they put his name as Tepes, and dracul from his fathers membership into the house of dragon.. but I could be wrong I guess.. if you would please show me where you recieved the other longer surname, as I research ALL vampyre-ism completely and tirelessly.. and I have yet to see his name as such?

as I know that this does not relate Vlad the third to vampyres, I myself still believe that there are those who have lived as vampyers and will continue to live as long as life goes on.. to show proof, sadly i have none. but there is so much in this world that we do not know, and so many creatures that we have yet to find. could not a vampyre be one of those? maybe the missing persons of the world are in fact just been 'sucked' dry? maybe they are so like you that you do not yet realize that they exist.. just something to ponder.. no real fact tho huh?.. sorry

You also stated that he was the most brutal but yet others see him as a hero as in this from wiki also..

It should be taken into account that Romanian folklore and poetry paints Vlad Ţepeş as a hero, anything but a vampire. His favorite weapon being the stake, coupled with his reputation in his native country as a man who stood up to both foreign and domestic enemies, gives Dracula the virtual opposite symbolism of Bram Stoker's vampire. For this reason, the association of his name with vampirism does not make sense to Romanians. In Romania he is still considered by some to be a "savior" to the people of his country. He is also considered one of the greatest leaders and defenders of Romania and was voted one of "100 Greatest Romanians" in the Mari Români television series aired in 2006.

could you please tell me how to post external references? it would be so much easier and more proper i believe?

Originally posted by forestlady
Hey Jackinthe Box:
I'm glad you brought up this topic. The vast majority of people don't understand or know anything about real Vampires. The answer to your question is:
YES! They do exist. There are people who actually need blood to sustain their energy levels. For some reason, regular food doesn't provide what they need. There is a code of sorts, called the Vampire Codex. There is also a vampire named Michelle Ballinger (sp?) who has written several books about Vampires. The one I have read is titled "Vampires in their Own Words". She explains the Vampire Codex, which is a rule that Vampires must ask permission of a person before drinking their blood. The persons who donate their blood are called donors. In this way, everything is up front and honest. It's a fascinating book and will tell you everything you want to know about Vampires. We just did an interview with Ms. Ballinger in the latest issue of my magazine (Green Egg). The interview was done by someone I know, who is a self-proclaimed Vampire.

It says that she is a psyic vamp? sounds interesting, will have to read it.. have you?

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Anyone who sais they do not believe in vampires has never bothered to look into the subject, and would probably be to closed-minded to even be on this site. We all know that there are people who like to drink blood, people allergic to sunlight, people who prey on the energy of others, etc. This is not what I intend to discuss here though.

Well possibilities are endless in this bizarre world and vampires certainly would not be surprising to me. I know there are many people who want to be vampires and live a vampiric life in as much as they can- crazy goths and what not.

Now for a life form species which is not human- but rather a vampire- who can say- and while I am not ready to adorn my windows with garlic- I am not a complete cynic either!

There are many strange creatures wandering the world today.

too much hollywood in the characters we call vampires

naturally evolving lifeforms would not constrict their survivability
by becoming such specialists - i.e. drinking only blood for sustinence


evidently 'vampires' do not procreate, they only 'infect' others into
their world of darkness.



i feel that there have been throughout history, abnormal humans
who obsessed on 'blood', became notorious / infamous because
they augmented their own tortured lives with a depraved need
to scare & astonish the country folk by drinking blood...to create a
aura of otherworldlyness about themselves.
Hubris to the extreme!


i also think the immortality angle came about because
'Evil' behavior in a person is not redeemable nor can be turned around.
and the myth grew from the distortions of meanings & metaphors



goth out more often

Originally posted by St Udio
too much hollywood in the characters we call vampires

naturally evolving lifeforms would not constrict their survivability
by becoming such specialists - i.e. drinking only blood for sustinence


evidently 'vampires' do not procreate, they only 'infect' others into
their world of darkness.

Leeches and vampire bats are two creatures, right off the top of my head, that are naturally evolved blood drinkers. I would like someone to bring in some solid evidence that there are Humans who drink blood out of some physiological need, as opposed to psychological.

Perhaps Vampires do procreate in the fashion Human Mammals are most farmiliar with. The "infection" may or may not be passed along to their offspring. But if they are immortal, they may choose not to have mortal offspring so they don't have to see their children die over and over again. Furthermore, the mortal offspring may not even be aware of their true parentage. The romanticised Vampire is certainly notorious for one-night stands.

The term "infection" I view with some disdain in this case. After all, Humans are an infection upon the Earth. Being Human, however, could make one biased to the perpetuation of species that is not sexual in the strictly Mammilian sense. Being able to select a suitable "host" is often a key factor in the perpetuation of many lifeforms. I expect that for a creature like the Vampire, it is a decision made with the utmost consideration. After all, most Vampires are not looking to make competition for themselves. The world certainly does not need an overpopulation of immortals. Vampire reproduction/perpetuation could be talked about even more in depth...

[edit on 25-11-2007 by jackinthebox]

A born again warlock ( male witch ) started to drink blood and soon found that he could live on it along and crackers . and it became all he could eat. as regular food hambergers mashed potatoes vegges he couldent keep down. He had a wife and 2 or3 groupies witches that he drank from. he is or at the time i heard about it 15 years ago he became a born again christian if thats possible. he almost killed one of the witches and with the help of his wife they saved her

I don't see why he couldn't become Christian. Physiological makeup doesn't entirely dictate one's beliefs. If Vampires do exist, they are not inherently evil necessarily. A Vampire who survived the "burning times" of the Middle Ages may despise the Catholic Church, but otherwise be of charitable nature. On the other hand, a Vampire may actually hold esteemed rank in an organized religion, while perpetrating henios crimes.