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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 12:09 PM by solign
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The entire vampire legend was written by a man in the same organization as Aleister Crowley... I think that says enough.





Whilst this may be true for the modern day "Hollywood" Vampire, it's not true for the legend itself.
Vampires have been included in myth, legend and folklore for millenia.
The greek, norse, mesapotamian and egyptian cultures of ancient times held beliefs in god and demons of a vampiric nature.
It is widely believed that the Persians were the one of the first cultures to believe in blood-drinking demons. Evidence of this has been found in the form of creatures drinking blood from humans being depicted on shards of pottery found at various archeological digs.
The Babylonions had the myth of Lilitu. She was apparently a demon who survived by drinking the blood of babies. Her Jewish counterpart, Lilith was meant to also feed on the blood of men and women as well as babies.
The Mesopotamians also held beliefs in the Babylonian goddess Lamashtu and Gallu who were believed to have vampiric tendencies.

The Greeks showed signs of believing in vampires similar to the ones of more recent folklore, although not as the undead. Empusa, daughter of the goddess Hecate, a demonic creature, was said to transfigure herself into a beautiful woman and seduce men, then drink their blood as they slept.
Lamia was said to be the daughter of a greek king and one of the mistresses of Zeus, but when his wife, the goddess Hera found out she killed Lamia's children and, as revenge, Lamia began to feed from young children as they slept by drinking their blood.
The striges (or strix as they were known in Roman belief) preyed upon children and young men.
The Romanian Strigoi, the Albanian Shtriga and the Slavic Strzyga are all said to have originated from the Roman belief in the Strix.

There was mass hysteria concerning vampires and vampire attacks in medieval Europe that spilt over even so far as the 18th century where an "epidemic" of grave diggings and corpse stakings occured as a response to numerous recorded sightings.


The Ashanti tribe of West Africa believe in the asanbosam which lives in trees with teeth of iron and preys on innocents. The Ewe tribe believe in the adze which preys specifically on children and takes on the form of the firefly to do so.

Most of this information can be found online from various sources, but also extensive reading into ancient cultures will lead yout o eventually come across some mention of either an actual vampire or a god or demon which possess vampiric tendencies.

*(infromation gained from
en.wikipedia.org... other, slightly more reliable sources may also be found with relative ease by using the following link...
www.google.co.uk...)

If at all you disagree with anything said here, please contradict me. Opinions are no good without voice.



reply posted on 17-1-2008 @ 12:26 AM by jackinthebox
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Excellent post and a star for it.

All of this mythology must certainly have some truth in it. Perhaps more than we care to know, or are deliberately turned away from.


reply posted on 17-1-2008 @ 05:36 AM by solign
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If you think, every story written today has some grain of truth in it, e.g something experienced by the protagonist relates to an experience of the author or someone they know.
Then surely the same must go for old myths and legends. Theoretically they should relate in some way to the true-life experiences of the original tellers.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 02:00 PM by fadedroses
Originally posted by jackinthebox
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I actually do, well its bit of a phychological disorder as well meaning a person does not mearly choose to drink blood but can not stop them selves. In most cases it's and iron diffecency that has caused someone to crave blood simply because it is rich in iron.


I might equate that to other eating disorders or alcoholism. Very real diseases that I don not believe are entirely psychological. For instance, people who eat food that has little to no nutritional value are often obese and gorge themselves.

Do you live an "non-average" lifestyle to facilitate satiation, or do you "go hungry" keeping it a secret? The third alternative could be drinking your own blood of course.


And harvesting organs from homeless people will never happen, ethic scientists wont allow it.


Check this link about a movie on that subject. It's worth renting.



I do believe that drinking your own blood, can sustain ones physcological need to an extent.



reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 02:01 PM by fadedroses
Originally posted by jackinthebox
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post by Akane




I actually do, well its bit of a phychological disorder as well meaning a person does not mearly choose to drink blood but can not stop them selves. In most cases it's and iron diffecency that has caused someone to crave blood simply because it is rich in iron.


I might equate that to other eating disorders or alcoholism. Very real diseases that I don not believe are entirely psychological. For instance, people who eat food that has little to no nutritional value are often obese and gorge themselves.

Do you live an "non-average" lifestyle to facilitate satiation, or do you "go hungry" keeping it a secret? The third alternative could be drinking your own blood of course.


And harvesting organs from homeless people will never happen, ethic scientists wont allow it.


Check this link about a movie on that subject. It's worth renting.



I do believe that drinking your own blood, can sustain ones physcological need to an extent.


reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 05:26 PM by ToolFanMael
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Hey Jackinthebox - Vlad The Impaler.. was he not Dracula or where it started? I have a relative who has medical conditions to do with sunlight.. but to my knowledge doesn't drink blood or need to... I know there are medical conditions where human blood would help the coniditon....... interesting topic thanks for the post


reply posted on 28-4-2008 @ 08:06 PM by jackinthebox
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Vlad the Impaler is indeed the historical figure which Bram Stoker based his now infamous Dracula character. The truth is however, that vampires have been reported throughout history, further back into mythology, and even refereed to in the bible. So even if Prince Vlad was indeed a true Vampire, he was not the first in my opinion. They are not always called "vampires" either, and there are variations in their descriptions, motivations, habits, etc.


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 07:33 PM by jackinthebox
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Are you talking about Max Schreck of "Nosferatu" fame?

I did a lot of study on the subject years ago, and have had some more "direct" experience as well.

At this point, I believe there are at least two distinct races of authentic Vampires, that really have very little in common with one another.





[edit on 6/27/0808 by jackinthebox]


reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 09:54 PM by jackinthebox
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How would the best way for a person to find evidence that they exist go about doing so.


Well, you will never find "proof" if that's what you're looking for here. The only thing you will find through research are the plauseable possibilitites. Either you believe or you don't believe, it's as simple as that. If you do accept the possibility, then the only thing left is to define what the Vampire actually is, not wether or not it exists. If you don't believe, then no eivdence will sway you.


I have been searching but i cant find anything. Any pointers? Yes i was talking about Shreck in the movie sense.


Perhaps you should start with Max Schreck then. Was he actually a Vampire? There are those who believe that he was. Mystery surrounds his historical birth and death, and even his own strange habits in life.



reply posted on 28-6-2008 @ 02:13 AM by Levita
Originally posted by jackinthebox
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post by RopeEngine



Are you talking about Max Schreck of "Nosferatu" fame?

At this point, I believe there are at least two distinct races of authentic Vampires, that really have very little in common with one another.


I hear he never showed his face on the set out of costume. Weren't his two front teeth the fangs? I find that unlikely. Where in nature are the teeth actual fangs other than the incisors, unless all the teeth are lengthened and sharpened?

Also, would you be inclined to tell what your idea of the two types of legitimate vampires are? It invokes the curiousity... Do tell.


reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 09:18 PM by Levita
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to
post by RopeEngine


At this point, I believe there are at least two distinct races of authentic Vampires, that really have very little in common with one another.


What are those two races? Would you tell?
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