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Topic started on 1-11-2007 @ 11:19 AM by zorgon
We have all been waiting a long time for this news...

Wednesday, October 31, 2007
U.S. scientists unveil NASA’s secrets about cities on the Moon and microbes on Mars


The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. Astronauts took pictures of the objects that they found, but NASA ordered Johnston to destroy the images. Johnston did not follow the order. He said that the U.S. government had been keeping this information a secret for 40 years.

Johnston's startling Apollo allegations have recently appeared in a new book, "Dark Mission: the Secret History of NASA," co-authored by former NASA consultant and CBS Science Advisor, Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara, an aerospace engineering consultant. According to Kay Ferrari, JPL Director of the SSA Program (in a phone call to Johnston last week), it was Johnston "being quoted [as] criticizing NASA in Hoagland's new book, 'Dark Mission,'" that prompted her to ask for Johnston's resignation from the SSA Program. When Johnston refused, citing First Amendment protections of free speech afforded all NASA employees, even those at JPL, Ferrari apparently decided to remove him arbitrarily from the SSA Program this week without cause.


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NASA Dismisses Former Apollo Photo and Data Manager from JPL Educational Program Missing Apollo Data to be Shown at National Press Conference

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during NASA's manned Apollo Lunar Program, was abruptly terminated Tuesday morning, October 23rd, from JPL's prestigious "Solar System Ambassador" (SSA) Program. All evidence of Dr. Johnston's exemplary 4-year participation in the NASA outreach effort to "communicate the importance of NASA aerospace programs to the public around the world" has been scrubbed from the official JPL SSA website, without formal notification of Dr. Johnston as to cause.


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Dr. Johnston will present documentation of his claims, credentials and key role at NASA October 30th.

Enterprise Mission to Hold Press Briefing on Possible Connection Between Next Space Shuttle Discovery Mission and Classified NASA Findings, at the National Press Club on Tuesday, Oct. 30



The subject: Why is NASA Determined to Launch Space Shuttle "Discovery" October 23rd, Despite NASA Engineering and Safety Center Warnings NOT to Launch? Has NASA Learned NOTHING from the Previous Schedule-Driven Disasters of Challenger and Columbia? Are Classified NASA Lunar Findings Secretly Pressuring the Aging Shuttle Program to Completion by 2010, to Make Way for "Constellation" -- and the New "Space Race" to the Moon?

Why this abrupt international focus on a 21st Century Moon Program -- after over 30 years of the Moon being totally ignored? Did Apollo find "something" of major importance on the Moon, which NASA just forgot to tell the rest of us? And is this somehow connected with NASA's inexplicable urgency to launch Discovery "on schedule," despite the safety issues? The October 30th NPC briefing will present startling answers to these major public policy questions - which could significantly affect the future of the VSE and NASA.


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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:05 PM by johnlear
As “Dark Mission” gets into circulation and everybody starts jockeying for position I want to make it clear that Hoagland/Bara’s statement on light scattering at sunrise on the moon is explained as their “shattered lunar dome model”.

While there may indeed be shattered domes on the near side, most notably on Mare Crisium and in the pictures from Apollo 12 and 14 that it is my opinion that the light scattering at sunrise, and other phenomena observed by Firsoff, along with those of D.P. Avigliano, Comstock, Pickering, Haas, Wilkens, Barcroft, Lipski along with opinions of:

(In no particular order)
William Herschel
Mestrius Plutarchus
Nicolaus Copernicus
Aristarchus of Samos
Hans Kepler
Peter Andreas Hansen
William Leitch
John Herschel
William Whewell
Asaph Hall
Mikhail Vasin

is due to a breathable atmosphere on the moon.

My opinion is that the atmosphere is thicker on the farside and requires no domes. The atmosphere on the near side I believe is about equal to 18,000 feet above sea level here on earth and thus requires domes over inhabited areas.

It is my opinion that there is no way that the powers in charge here are going to let the ‘breathable atmosphere on the moon’ become public knowledge.

I also want to make it clear that although I haven't finished the book that all constructs on the moon are referred to by Hoagland/Bara as "ancient", when in fact, it is my opinion that there is currently a civilization on the moon with whom we are actively pursuing mutual agendas which include mining and exploration.

I expect a heck of a show.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:27 PM by flice
Im surprised by your hype about this thread?

Check this one out:
ATS Thread

Altough there might be something to it, that big press stunt at the NPC turned out to be mainly to sell a lot of books.
Now go buy...


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:33 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by housegroove23
We can only hope for the best and hope that this really does get out to the public.


Its a call for all ATS members to keep a close eye on this one... lets make ATS the forefront of this story...

On the NASA safety report... there are many news services carrying this already..

AP Broke the story so this is mainstream...
U.S. government hides alarming air-safety report
Rita Beamish | The Associated Press October 23, 2007
Orland Sentinal

NASA mum on plane data that might scare you
CNN

NASA won't disclose air safety survey
YAHOO NEWS

NASA refuses to disclose survey of pilots on air safety
Globe and Mail Canada

NASA refuses to release flight safety survey results
ABC

Even was posted at BAD ASTRONOMY...

From the poster...
This is kind of ironic, because this situation boosts the CTers thinking (and with a valid reason in some way) but it also proves that NASA can´t keep a secret like CTers argue,don´t you think?


Only comment so far...
As an aside, I hear the fella that posted that is rather hansom.


And I can't wait to see their take on Ken Johnston..



So far the only comment is...



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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:43 PM by zorgon
Back to Ken Johnston...

So far the news is all repeats of the Enterprise Mission's press release..

Not surprising really If I had such a hot source I would want to 'keep it at home' myself

Fired NASA Whistleblower to Reveal New Apollo Secrets Kept Classified by Space Agency for Over 40 Years
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Seems this has been in the works for some time...

Ken Johnston Calls Again for NASA Vets to Come Forward
Sunday, September 16, 2007


After reading all the postings to this blog for the first time, I was hoping to find that someone besides myself had come forward with more information andevidence. It would be nice to have more FIRST HAND experience and knowledge from others that would provide additional support for the events that I mentioned in my first posting.


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Richard C. Hogland and Fired NASA Employee to hit Nation Press Club - Hoagland New Book #25 NY Times Best Seller

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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:48 PM by Vector J
reply to post by johnlear



Whoa there john. You can't have a substantially thicker atmosphere on one side of a stellar body than on the other. Atmospheres, generally speaking are fairly uniform across a surface, air doesn;t tend to congregate in one place. Or are you trying to say it's being forcibly held there? In which case, I'd love to hear your opinion on how on earth that would be possible...

Vector J


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:48 PM by johnlear
Originally posted by flice



Im surprised by your hype about this thread?

Check this one out:
ATS Thread

Altough there might be something to it, that big press stunt at the NPC turned out to be mainly to sell a lot of books.
Now go buy...



Thanks for the post flice. I read that it was going to be a 'history of NASA' so I didn't get too worked up about it. I didn't even order the book.

I thought it might have some of the usual Mars stuff from Hoagland.

But yesterday when I read they (Hoagland/Bara) were making firm statements about structures on the moon and sunrise light scattering I immediately set out to find the book. It took me three hours of driving and had to pay retail plus 10% .

So while I haven't read the book yet, the battle lines for a breathable atmosphere on the moon are being drawn.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 12:50 PM by logicize
reply to post by KSCVeteran



Are you Clark C. McClelland?

If so, what type of evidence do you posess?
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