Originally posted by housegroove23
Go Clark C. McClelland!
Go Ken Johnston!
While I cant speak for all of ATS, there will be a lot of us here that are behind you all of the way and got your back.

Just don't forget to bring along a little decent, verifiable proof while you're at it. You can understand why some of us get a kind of itchy when people tell us tall tales then just show us a few blurry images. Quality wins out over volume, but we'd like both if we can get it.

According to the old story, Jesus didn't snark at the Apostle Thomas and call him a debunker when he asked to see the wounds. He understood completely, and let Tom stick a finger in.

Originally posted by Alpha Grey
He will never live long enough to present his findings...

#, you make it sound as if *we are at war...*

So now what? We get front row seats to witness how effectively and efficiently the system operates?

To keep this sort of information a secret would be against the principles of any scientist, let alone the elite at NASA. No way any sane scientist could keep this a secret. There is no way all the scientists at NASA are insane.

Originally posted by Badge01

Hi John. Interesting thread.

One thing I'm not clear on.

It is my opinion that there is no way that the powers in charge here are going to let the ‘breathable atmosphere on the moon’ become public knowledge.

Who cares if it became public knowledge? I mean why would the powers in charge not want this to be out?

If they're worried about being called liars, just call it 'new research'.

Puzzled.

Thanks for the post Badge01.

There is much, much, much more at stake here than just a breathable atmosphere on the moon.

I would speculate that if all of this moon stuff gets too much publicity we are going to bomb ourselves and then attrack Iran in retaliation.

Or heck, we might just bomb ourselves and Iran and blame the aliens. Then we could tell the public that all this secret space stuff going was to protect them. Then they could say that now that it was all in the open we needed the publics help and if they could just line up single file into these railroad cars we will handle the rest. They might even ask me to lead the parade.

Originally posted by EBE154
yes, they definitely look like artificial structures to me! (ruins if you will)

I've spent the best years of my life mountain climbing and therefore have seen a huge variety of geological structures. Some of them (in fact quite many) look amazing and with a tiny bit of imagination you can figure out castles, sculptures, canals and alien reactors if you will. So that's that.

but why is that quite laughable? and why do you think the pictures are enhanced? did you maybe see something you cannot explain? o_O [...]

No, there is zelch there. As for enhancements, there are highlighted areas in some of the the photographs, and contrast is enhanced in a few instances, which amplifies the artifacts of the image (such as it's natural granularity). The rest is the work of your imagination.

Originally posted by johnlear
I admire your principles but would question your grasp of reality.

Thanks John.
I keep forgetting I'm dealing with bloody Earthlings here

I was quite concerned that you hinted about using an American f/f attack to cover up too much publicity though.

If like me,you feel the upcoming Iran conflict is a certainty,it could be the start of another great conspiracy.
Is it really worth the cost of covering it up THAT much though?

Suppose you are correct. There was no clandestine agenda in destroying the data. Does that change the Data itself? I think it is not really relevant to the problem. I guess that is my thinking. I am mostly concerned with what is on this these pictures then the who, the why, and the whatever not.

Originally posted by EBE154
ever heard what kind of people work in a laboratory?

Yes, all kinds of people, from those the chief scientist to the janitor.