posted on Sep, 28 2007 @ 11:41 AM
Ok, here are some answers: Probable cause is defined as having reasonable grounds to believe that a crime has been, is being, or will be committed. It
goes FAR beyond mere suspicion, and in court an officer must be able to give demonstrable evidence that would convince any reasonable person that a
crime in fact was at issue.
If a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight, he has reasonable grounds to believe that you are in default of a motor vehicle law, a misdemeanor.
That means he has the right to issue you a ticket. Thats all. If he notices, while doing his stop, that you have open containers, or smell like pot or
booze, or evidence of any other crime, then that changes the dynamic and he may charge for whatever is discovered.
However, in most states, a petty vehicle law being violated does NOT give the cop reason to tow your car, or arrest you. If the car is unsafe and
falling apart, then of course the cop can tow it.But the real issue is what cops do to get CONSENT, which is what they crave, as it eliminates all
problems for them about any searches. Probable cause is more definite and requires more evidence than mere ' reasonable grounds' which is a lesser
requirement. If a cop SEES you violate a law, then that is probable cause, it someone reports a crime and he does not see it, and he acts on that
info, that is reasonable grounds for a further look, but it is NOT probable cause.
When you go to court, the judge decides if probable cause exists to sustain a charge; if not it is dismissed. If so, it goes forward.Simple. But,
cops CANNOT get probable cause from your refusal to cooperate or answer questions, no way. It canot be used as a basis for further attention to you.
The fact that you demand that your rights be observed is NOT cause for cops to be suspicious, although they are and they try to coerce and badger
people into giving up their rights. It makes iot easy for them to harrass and charge people who give up their rights.
It is perfectly LEGAL in ALL states for a citizen to record police in public, just as they can record us.No law prevents it. Of course the dirty dog
cops try and use other laws not iontended for that use to intimidate and try and stop it, but when it reaches court, it will be thrown out. Here is
the law: If you are recording TWO people, neither of whom know that you are doing so, then that can be called wiretapping. But, as long as ONE party
to the conversation knows that they are being recorded, then it is OK.
For example, if a cop tells you that you cannot film him, he is lying. They just HATE to be filmed as they break the law so much and hate being
caught at it. Thats the entire reason for them to object; if they were following the laws and rules, they should WELCOME video as it would prove that
the cops were doing the right thing; but the truth is that cops do the WRONG thing so often that they hate video.
But it is legal, and they are liars, of course. As long as you stand clear of the scene and do not physically interfere with the cops doing their
thing, it is legal. As long as YOU are aware of the video, it is legal. Cops have NO EXPECTATIONS of privacy while doing their jobs, plain and
simple. If someone walks up to you with a camera rolling, you have a choice of walking away, or acting in a way that would not discredit you. Cops,
however, hate the thought of ANY oversight and as they violate the laws and the rights of the people so often they KNOW that cameras will get them in
trouble, so they fight them tooth and nail.
The cockroaches ( cops ) HATE the light being shined on THEM, and they will resist any attempts to show them at what they really do, abusing
citizens and their rights as a normal party of their day. Cops HATE to have their bluff called, but it works wonders. If some cop says " Hey, turn
that camera off or I will charge you with ( fill in the blank with a lie ) "..Just say " Wonderful!! That means I get to sue you in Federal court
for violating my civil rights..let's go!!" Challenge them and they back off; not many cops want to face attorneys and juries when they are lying and
have no law to back them up. Call their bluff and watch them run; cops HATE it when a citizen relishes the thought of a chance to ruin a cops life and
takes a stand.
Cops work MOSTLY on bluff and intimidation, they threaten and growl and bluster, but it is all an act. When it all boils down, the cops have to sign
their names on any arrests and charges and that means they are committed to it and are liable for it. Cops COUNT on the citizen being afraid and
scared of being arrested; but being arrested is no big deal and for some petty charge that is obviously a sham, you will be out fast and can then file
charges against the cop and start a lawsuit. So do NOT be afraid of calling a cop's bluff; if they have PROBABLE CAUSE, they will NOT talk and
threaten, they will just arrest you. If they do NOT have any probable cause, then they have to rely on bluffs to get us to back down.
So, in summary, there is NO LAW in any state that gives the cops the right to photograph us while we cannot do the same, it does not exist and no
one can find it. Cops must have PROBABLE CAUSE , which is more definite than suspicion, to effect a legal arrest or charge. Cops CANNOT use your
refusal to speak or answer questions against you; it does NOT give them any legal basis for further action. It is a BLUFFING game, and cops are
experts at it; as sickening as it is to understand that cops, supposedly SERVING us, use subterfuge and lies and threats as part of their sick games
against us, it is the truth.
Make it simple and clear to any cop that is harrassing you and threatening you that you will be DELIGHTED to be arrested for some phony charge, as
that is all you need to file a Federal civil rights lawsuit against him PERSONALLY. Let them know that you have NO FEAR of a few hours in jail and
that the cop is doing you a FAVOR if he arrests you falsely: It gives you the ammo you need to finish the creeps off in court and hopefully take their
savings and home and car and ruin their lives, which is only possible by suing them.
Let any cop that bothers you know that getting a charge dismissed is the BEGINNING of your revenge, and that you are more than willing to take it
all the way. SHOW NO FEAR !! Cops can smell fear like their dogs can smell dope: Cops use fear and bluff as a routine practice, so know the law and