Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

reply to post by pieman

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But who is the threat to me, my children, my friends, family and neighbors, MY COUNTRYMEN?

And why? He will murder because we don't worship the same God?

Since the 1600's my family has toiled and taken up arms for this Country! I hate what you are saying all the way to my deepest soul. I pray that big brother is watching what you and others are saying here.

But, I would still DIE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT. And I would gladly die for your right to believe in any God that you choose to believe in.

That makes me an American, I bleed red, white and blue.

When I see the destruction that I saw on Manhattan, I bleed.

What does that make you, I wonder?

Goodnight,
Terrie

well, thats the problem with people who cant think for themselves or question authority, they need someone strong to guide them.

guess what? there was war in iraq before we invaded, and there will be war if we leave. no action that we can provide will stop the war in iraq short of nuking them, and that would spawn more war anyway.

UBL, if you're listening, come convert me your damn self. i dare you.

Yeah, I get that, but still he ends by saying "were I to claim such a thing".

That seems to infer that he has not.

Yes he has otherwise he wouldn't be making all this crappy grievances.

english.aljazeera.net...



And look what he says in the new video...

reply to post by actonkid

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makes me a realist, there are two sides to every coin and neither are exactly free of tarnish. as for the threats.........the title of the thread is ''Osama Bin Laden Video Contains 'No Overt Threats'''', so no-one is threatening you. again, i suggest you read what he's saying before you believe the propaganda.

c'mon, give it a go, deny ignorance.

as for big bro, well i'ld rather go down for the truth than for the lie, and make no mistake, sooner or later we all go down.

um.....no there wasn't......where did you get that pile of cow feces?


deltaboy, i agree he does imply he was responsible, but given the credibility that the 9/11 event has lent him it would be stupid on his part not to, even if he had nothing to do with it, which i'm undecided abaout.

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reply to post by Implosion

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From that statement I don't think so even though he alluded to the 19 hijackers.His ramblings don't read the same as some things I read in a book, there his word's which were almost poetic and focused. He seems to be appealing to green peace, anarchists, anti globalists, marxists, in fact he would fit right in these conspiracy forums here.I think his message is to let everyone that this war will be fought globally..not just Afghanistan and Iraq and that everyone is fair game and that he is alive and still the Chairman of the Board of Alqaeda International .

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my friend, genocide is simply a war that is being lost by one side to the point they face eradication.

Many heroes get their status by killing people. The founders of Australia and America made their countries by killing of the natives and they are heroes. Jean of Arc wasn't a tapestry maker and Richard Coeur de Lion certainly isn't a hero because of his castle building prowess. Patton, Rommel and Monty weren't just playing risk you know. You humans really need to get over yourselves, whether you believe in their cause or not physical courage in battle is just as difficult for both sides of a conflict. OBL has proven his courage in service with the Mujahideen who are by no means an easy orginization to be a part of. Yes they can be cruel and ruthless but this is what soldiers do when they have to, sometimes it keeps them alive.

reply to post by jprophet420

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again, both sides of the coin are tarnished, me thinks there are few enough nations that haven't carried out a touch of genocide in their time, including your own, ever occur to you that making the problem worse doesn't usually help. leaving your ''allies'' in the crap once is bad enough, are you suggesting the us should leave them in the crap a second time?

I am suggesting simply that leave or stay, the grim reaper will be busy. we shouldn't have been there either time, what was going on was wrong. i agree with you that both sides of the coin are tarnished in blood.

to be honest i think the last necessary war we engaged in without a false flag operation was the civil war.

that is the reason we have 'the right to bear arms' so to speak. to defend ourselves from an on soil military invasion. anything short of that is political propaganda in my red blooded opinion.

Its easier to pull a trigger when you dehumanize the enemy. We are the great devil and evil empire..destroyers of the Earth ..while we send mixed signals and portray them more as freedom fighters than terrorists, insurgents,jihadists..but never the monsters or on the level they should be if we were hell bent on winning...This PC will be the death of us.

I find the release really inconsistent as I said prior. with the fluid thoughts of a Bedoin warrior poet. It may be just another CIA production.It may be a smokescreen to cover those Mexican trucks rolling into this country as we speak, THATS VERY REAL and its not Bin Laden driving them. And Hillary must be relieved eyes are off her for the moment on the Hsu china missle connection. There is something very bizarre with this entire picture.

So are we all in agreement that this OBL video is legit?

Is it really him?

Is it verifiably current?

Buy urging us to embrace Islam is he attempting to achieve a religious requirement prior to attacking us?

Exactly what is he saying in these words here:

"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you - with your full knowledge and consent - to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan...

There are two solutions to stopping it. One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you." -- Osama Bin Laden Septemeber 2007

Actually he left out an option. We could drop a nuke on his gutless ass. Convert this you cowardly little shemale.

OBL is terrorist scum to many , but to millions he is a brave freedom fighter , up against the most powerful nation on earth

The first, I take as an admonishment and warning that since he became President for a second term, voted in by us, then we all are responsible for the decisions of our Government.

The second, I take as a warning.

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reply to post by The_Coo

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I didnt realize one could cower in a cave while ordering the death of innocent people and still be heroic and brave. Tell me, if someone decides to start killing Muslims in this country, will you call him a freedom fighter too?

im just making the point that one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter depending on what side of the fence you are on .