Theres no denying that Muslim extremists welcome the death of non believers . The West will have to come to some sort of peace agreement with the extremists in the mid east or theyll be stuck there for a very long time.

Originally posted by DemonicAngelZero
Hmm, I just skimmed the previous posts, lost interest when a flame war was starting... but I have a question. I remember having a discussion with a Muslim friend a while back and somehow the conversation got to hair dye... she said Islam had no problems with using dye, but only as long as it wasn't black. I don't know if she was messing with me or what, but it was just something that I remembered when checking out the video. Any truth to it? Anyways, it seems more likely that anything that might happen on the anniversary of September 11th will just end up giving us an excuse to invade Iran. And with Bush, it wouldn't take very much. We could get sent an angry letter from someone and he'll start launching missiles... which might have "accidentally" been replaced with Nukes

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Yeah I thought under Islamic law the use of dyes is a no go. They use henna (only), which would then make the gray appear to be a orangish, right!?!?

Wearing a beard is not obligatory for Muslim men and is only "Sunna" or following the lifestyle of Muhammad. But some radical Islamic sects, particularly bin Laden's allies in the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, consider it compulsory for adult Muslims.

Clean-shaven men, and those who trim their beards, were often punished for the perceived crime.Until now bin Laden has left his beard long and uncut. Some conservative Muslims henna their beards, but it is pretty rare to dye them black

Originally posted by Shroomery
Now replace "Bin Laden" with "George Bush" and "3000" with "close to a million"

Why ? Would that then allow you to support bin laden, guilt free ?

Miss them on the swings, and get them on the roundabouts, eh...

As long as there is someone worse, then it's A-Ok to support the instigator of mass murder, eh..

This thread leaves me feeling ill..

Did you all actually read the transcript of what he is saying?

It makes perfect sense to me!

OBL prefers peace! He implied the (previous) attacks on America are retaliations for us being over there and killing his perceived kinfolk. Supporting Israel is not helping matters either.

All we have to do to win the "war on terror" is leave! Leave the Middle East area as a occupying, murdering force. Academic!

Originally posted by masqua
Could everyone please try to remain civil? I understand why emotions can be no less intense during this time of remembrence than they were in 2001. The release of this video now is meant to cause an uproar, so don't let it affect us... it means that they are successful.

I'm not even American, but even I find some of the statements posted here sickening.

The topic is Bin Laden. People will be quite emotional in their posts due to the fact that he is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people in non-islamic countries. Not just the US, but branches of al qaeda have spread and perpatrated violence in many places.

And then I see other US citizens attacking Coalition forces in the middle east and calling them murderers and calling him and his followers heroes?

So muslim terrorists - violent mass murdering criminals who takes pleasure in killing innocent men, women and children while shouting god is great - are brave heroes...

But the young men and women from your own country who are sent to hostile lands, to fight an enemy they know nothing about for a war they don't understand, because it is their duty as patriotic citizens, and who face an enemy who hides among civilians incognito and who takes pleasure in torturing and dismembering these kids whenever capture them, are considered murderers ?

That makes me ill to my spine.

Bloody cowards think like that. Unbelievable.

I was skeptical about the theory that his black beard could be a "go code" when I first heard it... I actually laughed at it.

Now, however, I'm thinking it could be plausible.
According to a Muslim friend of mine, the only time it is acceptable to these people to dye their beard (or hair) black is in a time of war or Jihad.

As mentioned previously in this thread, it would actually be a perty smart code as it would be hard to detect and cannot be edited out. Even a still image taken from the vid would show the black beard and deliver the message.

I'm still skeptical, but less so now.

Originally posted by QuasiShaman
Did you all actually read the transcript of what he is saying?

It makes perfect sense to me!

OBL prefers peace! He implied the (previous) attacks on America are retaliations for us being over there and killing his perceived kinfolk. Supporting Israel is not helping matters either.

All we have to do to win the "war on terror" is leave! Leave the Middle East area as a occupying, murdering force. Academic!

I agree with you we need to leave already. enough people have died already. people need to stop joining the millitary. i was about to join and go straight over to iraq i signed up and was ready to go. and then i had a long talk with some friends and family members and decided to do some real research about this whole war and 9/11 and find out what i would be fighting for. and im not fighting for nothing if i go over there. id be fighting a war for a government i dont agree with. I kinda believe that our government had a part in 9/11 as crazy as that might sound to some of you. i decided i will only fight for what i believe in and thats my family, friends and freedom. Im not sure who the enemy really is anymore. Also dont let Recruiters lie to you once you sign they say you cant back out well my friends that is a lie you can still back out. so if you have second thoughts know that you have a chioce and you dont have to go die for someone elses war and i would also like to add im not gonna die for something i dont believe in. there will always be fighting. if you fight fire with fire there will always be fire thats my motto. there will never be peace ever and i have to accept that and just live my life. there will always be war. im making that my signature i like that

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