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Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:14 PM
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Why do you think she said it, to piss people off. I hope so anyway

I still think bin laden died years ago, maybe that's why he's evaded capture for so long. It kinda makes sense. I idolize hitler, before he turned bad. He was a credit to the german race and helping the economy. Sadly he went the same way as all politician's and dictator's, mental.

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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:16 PM
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Theres no denying that Muslim extremists welcome the death of non believers . The West will have to come to some sort of peace agreement with the extremists in the mid east or theyll be stuck there for a very long time.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by DemonicAngelZero
Hmm, I just skimmed the previous posts, lost interest when a flame war was starting... but I have a question. I remember having a discussion with a Muslim friend a while back and somehow the conversation got to hair dye... she said Islam had no problems with using dye, but only as long as it wasn't black. I don't know if she was messing with me or what, but it was just something that I remembered when checking out the video. Any truth to it? Anyways, it seems more likely that anything that might happen on the anniversary of September 11th will just end up giving us an excuse to invade Iran. And with Bush, it wouldn't take very much. We could get sent an angry letter from someone and he'll start launching missiles... which might have "accidentally" been replaced with Nukes


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Yeah I thought under Islamic law the use of dyes is a no go. They use henna (only), which would then make the gray appear to be a orangish, right!?!?



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:23 PM
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I beleive the attacks on Violet are incredibly injust.

Most on this site do not believe that OBL was responsible for 911.

Most on this site, hate corporations for what they do.

Most on this site believe the neo-cons have a grand plan that isn't in the best interest of the majority of Americans.

I think that most of what Bin Laden says is spot on with most ATS members believe. So why bash someone who shows him a little support?

I myself do not consider him a hero. I think peace is the answer. Hate the mesenger if it pleases, but don't hate the message that is the same as your own.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Boondock78
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dude, you don't know what a terrorist is gonna do...9/11 would be just as good a time as 1/17

whatever.....this is a big ass country and 'terror' covers a broad spectrum....terrorism is a few notches down on my list of things to worry about....
my gov is numero uno
Third if a terrorist was to do something on 9/11 agian that would be the worst time for them to make an attack because we are on are toes. but that doesnt mean they still couldnt thank you for telling me exactly what i was saying in my post in the first place. next time read my whole post thanks


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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:25 PM
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this may have been posted here before, but relevant...




posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:26 PM
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Wearing a beard is not obligatory for Muslim men and is only "Sunna" or following the lifestyle of Muhammad. But some radical Islamic sects, particularly bin Laden's allies in the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, consider it compulsory for adult Muslims.

Clean-shaven men, and those who trim their beards, were often punished for the perceived crime.Until now bin Laden has left his beard long and uncut. Some conservative Muslims henna their beards, but it is pretty rare to dye them black



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:26 PM
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Usually when a person proclaims that he/she want's to kill all the Islamists, he/she means all the people who follow Islam. Say that you do kill all the Islamists, what then? People will replace them, and it starts all over again. If you aren't racist then, what are you? You know what? It doesn't matter. Stop derailing the thread.

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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by Shroomery
Now replace "Bin Laden" with "George Bush" and "3000" with "close to a million"


Why ? Would that then allow you to support bin laden, guilt free ?

Miss them on the swings, and get them on the roundabouts, eh...

As long as there is someone worse, then it's A-Ok to support the instigator of mass murder, eh..

This thread leaves me feeling ill..



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:33 PM
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Islamists is NOT the same as Muslim. Educate yourself please if you are going to discuss important topics.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:39 PM
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Did you all actually read the transcript of what he is saying?

It makes perfect sense to me!

OBL prefers peace! He implied the (previous) attacks on America are retaliations for us being over there and killing his perceived kinfolk. Supporting Israel is not helping matters either.

All we have to do to win the "war on terror" is leave! Leave the Middle East area as a occupying, murdering force. Academic!



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
If you aren't racist then, what are you?


Technically he is sacrilegious, talking blasphemy against a religion.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...




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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
Could everyone please try to remain civil? I understand why emotions can be no less intense during this time of remembrence than they were in 2001. The release of this video now is meant to cause an uproar, so don't let it affect us... it means that they are successful.


I'm not even American, but even I find some of the statements posted here sickening.

The topic is Bin Laden. People will be quite emotional in their posts due to the fact that he is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent people in non-islamic countries. Not just the US, but branches of al qaeda have spread and perpatrated violence in many places.

And then I see other US citizens attacking Coalition forces in the middle east and calling them murderers and calling him and his followers heroes?

So muslim terrorists - violent mass murdering criminals who takes pleasure in killing innocent men, women and children while shouting god is great - are brave heroes...

But the young men and women from your own country who are sent to hostile lands, to fight an enemy they know nothing about for a war they don't understand, because it is their duty as patriotic citizens, and who face an enemy who hides among civilians incognito and who takes pleasure in torturing and dismembering these kids whenever capture them, are considered murderers ?

That makes me ill to my spine.

Bloody cowards think like that. Unbelievable.




posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:48 PM
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I was skeptical about the theory that his black beard could be a "go code" when I first heard it... I actually laughed at it.

Now, however, I'm thinking it could be plausible.
According to a Muslim friend of mine, the only time it is acceptable to these people to dye their beard (or hair) black is in a time of war or Jihad.

As mentioned previously in this thread, it would actually be a perty smart code as it would be hard to detect and cannot be edited out. Even a still image taken from the vid would show the black beard and deliver the message.

I'm still skeptical, but less so now.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by QuasiShaman
Did you all actually read the transcript of what he is saying?

It makes perfect sense to me!

OBL prefers peace! He implied the (previous) attacks on America are retaliations for us being over there and killing his perceived kinfolk. Supporting Israel is not helping matters either.

All we have to do to win the "war on terror" is leave! Leave the Middle East area as a occupying, murdering force. Academic!


I agree with you we need to leave already. enough people have died already. people need to stop joining the millitary. i was about to join and go straight over to iraq i signed up and was ready to go. and then i had a long talk with some friends and family members and decided to do some real research about this whole war and 9/11 and find out what i would be fighting for. and im not fighting for nothing if i go over there. id be fighting a war for a government i dont agree with. I kinda believe that our government had a part in 9/11 as crazy as that might sound to some of you. i decided i will only fight for what i believe in and thats my family, friends and freedom. Im not sure who the enemy really is anymore. Also dont let Recruiters lie to you once you sign they say you cant back out well my friends that is a lie you can still back out. so if you have second thoughts know that you have a chioce and you dont have to go die for someone elses war and i would also like to add im not gonna die for something i dont believe in. there will always be fighting. if you fight fire with fire there will always be fire thats my motto. there will never be peace ever and i have to accept that and just live my life. there will always be war. im making that my signature i like that

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posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Night Watchman
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And Agent Violet, I also value your contribution and views...but this is too much for me to take. I cannot believe you would refer to him as honorable. Clearly you are an intelligent person...how can you be so blind?


You are judging someone. And as far as i am concerned, merely showing your inability to accept another person having a different opinion to yourself.

There are MANY people who support Bin Laden and the ideals he stands for. Secondly, you say he is responsible for the deaths of 3000 innocent people......are you aware there are many people who do not believe Bin Laden was the orchestrator of the September 11 attacks?

If it is the deaths of innocent people by which you decide whom not to support, then by the same line of reasoning you should not, in any way whatsoever, be a supporter of the American Government who have been responsible for the deaths of far more innocent people.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 12:05 AM
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Yet another illinformed poster. I was not, in any way, commenting on the Muslim religion. I was speaking specifically about Bin Laden and his followers who do not follow the tenets of the Muslim faith. They twist the words to justify cold blooded murder.

I would suggest that you also educate yourself before commenting on the posts of others.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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This new Osama video to me feels almost forced. We see all over this site people putting together the pieces of a massive puzzle of world events, and coincidences which is probably very threatening to the NWO or the Shadow government, or whatever they wish to call themselves.

Abovetopsecret.com...

This was brought up earlier in the thread by pluckynoonez

In a rare public address CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden warned of new attacks by al-Qaida:

Article at: NewsMax

My theory is Osama has not been caught because he is needed. I see him being "retired" and making these videos when called upon by...(CIA, NWO, who knows really) to serve as a distraction when something really big is going to, or is happening.

We are going to analyze this video to death looking for signs that may, or may not, be there. It's my opinion that we should keep an even closer eye on what ELSE is happening now so we are not caught off guard.

My 2cents



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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Agent Violet, you're cute but you're misguided.

It's clear that some real bad stuff is about to happen, and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt. Something needs to be done.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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WOW well said you could not have said that any better. i felt like i was reading something i wrote. you get a star for that one




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