Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

I don't see this "lion sheik," carrying out suicide missions...he hides in caves soiling himself while others PURPOSELY kill innocent civilians at his command. Maybe you find that admirable. I don't?

Lion Sheik? No...he is nothing but a pussy.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by Night Watchman]

yep, and how many congress men sent their kids to iraq? OBL has at least seen action, against the russians and the us. perhaps you'ld expect a leader to make the sacrifice he asks of his people but lets not be hypocritical about it.

watchmen, you are getting all worked up over nothing dude...

enhance your calm and rub your earlobes or something

yep, and how many congress men sent their kids to iraq? OBL has at least seen action, against the russians and the us. perhaps you'ld expect a leader to make the sacrifice he asks of his people but lets not be hypocritical about it.

No, public PLEASE! I would so sincerely love to hear what kind of rational (?)person would think OBL is hero material!!!!

Do you like all mass murderers in General?

Could everyone please try to remain civil? I understand why emotions can be no less intense during this time of remembrence than they were in 2001. The release of this video now is meant to cause an uproar, so don't let it affect us... it means that they are successful.

Remember to stay civil toward each other and respect the right to differing opinions.

Courtesy is mandatory

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Even as Sept 11 comes closer...

and nothing i wrote said he was admirable, i guess turnaround is fair play.

actually, what i mean is that you can't expect bin laden to carry out operations any more than any other battle field commander, there's no point in calling him a filthy pig and supporting the troops at the same time, if he is a coward, so are all commanders.

i didn't say you were hypocritical, that hasn't been proven, i said lets not be hypocritical in regards to OBL, he's no better or worse than bush or his ilk. unless you acknowledge that then you are being hypocritical.

Such as?

reply to post by actonkid

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is that a joke, i heard of this one religous fundamentalist who's overseen the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians based on a completely ridiculous premise, i hear he even allows his followers to kidnap and torture people on a whim, without any legal recourse.

do you need a hint?

I would certainly HOPE so.

I figure most people on ATS have FBI files and theyre not related to OBL.

So could we return to the topic? Whats this I hear about a Fake Beard? Anyone have sources?

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reply to post by MikeboydUS

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even me, yeesh, i do a lot worse than post on web sites, i hope i don't get sent down for this stuff.

seriously, i hope to god that the FBI's intelligence network doesn't need to stoop so low.

i just read the entire transcript,
and it got me thinking...

when has Bush ever spoken so eloquently and earnestly...

the man knows what he speaks of. he is obviously well informed; possibly more than we think.

made a lot of truthful points.

this wasnt a tape to wage war. its clear where he stands and why.
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now the guys who writes bush's speaches are scrambling to find ways to spin this video...

interesting series of events lately.



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reply to post by bodrul

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Bodrul says: " Quran states that a muslim can only strike at someone if they have attacked them or if they are being opressed by them. "

My question is: What did the people in the two buildings of the World Trade Center possibly do to them?

DG I haven't laughed in weeks, right up until I read your little bit of sarcasm.

Funny stuff, thank you.

I'm wondering exactly how he thinks us converting to Islam will stop the war in Iraq?

May stop Al Qaeda, but even they kill other Muslims.

But then again, his thinking is skewed, we all know that, so its not worth arguing over.

Are you talking about George Bush? Sounds like a good description of him and his murderous sub-human thugs.

reply to post by actonkid

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These are Bin Laden's own words, they show you his reasoning.

On a side note, I thought I'd heard people saying that he had claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. Here he says: "The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing."

Has he claimed responsibility or not?

reply to post by Kacen

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from page six of the linked pdf transcript in the OP, his reasoning is that, should there be a mass conversion to islam in the west, it would scare the crap out of the big corporations/governments and they'ld stop their imperial wars, weather that logic is skewed or not is debatable.

Read again..."Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing.”

If Americans claim to be innocent as victims of terrorist attacks, why should Osama not claim that innocence as well since America's foreign policy supposedly killed millions of Muslims in the past decade, along with Israel's aggression. Should Muslims not be innocent as well?

That is what he means.