over the course of the last several days i've read articles, analysis,
talking points, blogs.... all addressing the OBL videos. (now two in number)

web sites include SITE, IntelCenter, DEBKA Files, icga.blogspot, mparent7777-2.blogspot, prisonplanet. blogs.abcnews, and others...

but i still have not come up with a definitive 'bottom line'...

IOW, i cannot say that for 100% that 'Gadahn'
->formerly Adam Pearlman
(a zionist) aka Azzam al-Amriki is not a Israeli Mossad agent/CIA agent
posing as the media arm of AQ (called As-Shahab) who has been over the years, responsible for all these (opportune for the Bush-neocon cabal) OBL video/messages...

what i believe...is that there is a actual 'SALAFI' a radical brand of Sunni Islam which OBL is/was(when alive) immersed in.
The 'Wahabbi' also exists, but either sect is out of the mainstream and only the most radically oriented zealots subscribe (voluntarily) to that sects marching orders.
Zakat is a operational way of life in the Arab community, as i was told back in my Veterans-against-Vietnam-war days, but the philosophy has been 'spinned' by the think-tankers/neocon cabal into a nefarious underground network enmeshed in sabotage & the supposed funding of zealots/terrorists/anarchists...
who are grouped together under the 'radical Islamists' umbrella
(for the ease of indentity of a singular Boogy-Man/ demonized body of people)

somewhere in all the facts & events, there is a truth to be revealed...
be it a small core group of zealots, or a lot of 'false flag' operations..

i'm going to sit back & watch, much like i did with warning/alerting people & friends to never work or visit at the WTC or Pentagon because they were 2-of-3 targets for terrorists, sometime down the road...

the video could just be a fake from the goverment or something just to make another reason to stay in a country like afghanistan and start more in it? dont u guys rekon the more tapes thay bring out the more reasons the goverment of america have against mid east he probely aint even alive anymore

I am confused by the availability of these videos. Why do thy get such an airing in the US? As another poster on here said, why give them airtime to transmit their rhetoric and threats?

In the 80's the British Government banned members of Sinn Fien from speaking on television to stop the above. Of course this ended up with the hillarious situation that the television news companies exploited a loop hole and didn't use the real voices of, say, Gerry Adams instead they overdubbed it with another very similar Northern Irish accent.

The Bin Laden tapes are rubbish, merely transmitted to frighten people. If OBL made this tape then that means there is a trail back to him. Why isn't that exploited by the technical and intelligence muscle of the US? Apart from the fact that I believe the guy is dead, I could understand us not finding him if he really did go to ground and stay hidden but the fact that he keeps popping up again and still doesn't get caught is rubbish.

That particular tape is so bad with its stop motion acting but continuous voice over. Did you see the one on Youtube that was made as a spoof? even that was more convincing. Do you think that they wouldn't make the film, watch it through and go "bugger! we missed the bit of you waving the RPG launcher cos the film had stopped, we had better do that over again because we have an important message to get out".

I love the way people are trying to read 'messages' into the film. If OBL wanted to threaten people, he would. If he wanted to give a coded message he would just say something like "the blue cow jumps over the gate" and this would means something to who it was meant to mean something to. So what if you then know something is coming, that is what terror is about. Do people really think that this would be the only way that he could contact sleeper cells within the US considering he can't be caught?

The only thing that people can pick up on is the colour of his beard, to me this signifies that your government (who made the film) thinks you are stupid fools who won't pick up on the fact that his beard was grey in their last poor attempt and now it is black. They just figure that we think that 'they all look the same'. The previous OBL was a stand in and they copped so much flak over that so they decided to use some other stock footage of him but do the overdub / freeze frame instead. What's next? A Disney Pixar version? One with him wearing a bag over his head to protect his current ID? Even if the guy was feeling a bit vain one day and decided to dye his beard, he would be laughing his socks of to think that people are speculating about the meaning of this

Come on people, wake up and smell the coffee!

[edit on 3-10-2007 by EJHoover]

alot of ppl talk like thay have evidence he is still alive how do u guys know he is its a trick to your eyes

Hi all

Who knows whether the video is real or not - I don't trust it - What happened to all the fake Bin Laden tapes after 9/11 - I haven't heard to much about them - I don't trust any of the media any more !!!

Peace