Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Science is more accurate than John Lear. Plus, for science to be noting but a cover up by some secret "cabal" or whatever you woos claim then
there would have to a LOT of people in on it, lol.
Now, wheres that scientific, verifiable evidence that the moon does indeed have a rich atmosphere?!? Please, do tell. Thousands of astronomers are on
the edge of their seat to find out how you figured out their little scheme, lol.
First we have to start the moons gravity. We can't have a breathable atmosphere without a gravity at least 50% that of earths.
So to start off we have to understand that the moons gravity is about 64% that of earths, not the 1/6th you are told.
How do we know this? We know this because we know that the real neutral point between the earth and the moon, that is the point at which the gravity
of the earth equals the gravity of the moon for an object in between, is 43,495 miles from the moon. How do we know this? We know it because Werner
von Braun told us so and because all books published by Apollo astronauts elude to the fact that the Apollo ships were in the 'pull of the moon' at
least by 38,000 miles not the 22,000 mile neutral point that NASA would have you believe. NASA insists on the 22,000 mile neutral point because
that’s the distance that would work out to the moon having one sixth of earths gravity according to the Bullialdus/Newton law of inverse square.
The Bullialdus/Newton law of inverse square which states that the gravitational attraction between two massive objects, in addition to being directly
proportional to the product of their masses, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; by using this law we find that the
gravity on the moon is 64% that of earth if we use 43,495 miles as a neutral point.
We are not going to use Newton’s Law of universal gravitation because the densities of the moon and the earth (required for the formula) are very
likely theoretical fabrications. In order to fabricate those fabricated densities scientists had to hypothesize an iron core within the earth in order
to increase the density of the earth in order for the assumed density of the moon and assumed density of the earth to equal one six earths gravity on
the moon. In other words scientific theories are hypothesized with fabricated data in order to provide the result that we are expecting and/or would
like to see.
The advantage of using the Bullialdus/Newton law of Inverse Square is we don't have to assume any density or fabricate any data because we are
comparing the relative gravitational pull of the 2 bodies (earth, moon) and not relative densities.
Now that we know that the moon gravity is 64% that of earth we are more likely to accept that there is, in fact a possibility that the moon has an
That the moon has a breathable atmosphere and maybe even a civilization has been proposed and/or hypothesized by many scientists and astronomers over
the years, including:
Aristarchus of Samos
Peter Andreas Hansen
That the moon has an atmosphere is evident from a photograph of the moon dating back to January 1946 by the Lick Observatory which shows a huge
explosion being not only suspended in the atmosphere but the clouds of which are rising. Also Lunar Orbiter photos show vapor rising in the mining
area of Copernicus.
William L. Brian, in “Moongate: Suppressed findings of the U.S. Space Program” Future Science Research Publishing Co. Copyright William L. Brian
II 1982 LOCCCN: 81-69211 ISBN: 0-941-2929-00-2, suggests that ‘the reason meteors seemed to be stopped more effectively in passing through the
Moon’s atmosphere than the Earth’s is that measurements made during the Apollo missions indicated that a huge bulge exists on the farside of the
moon. The ‘huge bulge’ is also hypothesized by respected Danish mathematician and astronomer in 1856.This implies that the density and depth of
the atmosphere on the near side are much greater than the average density and depth.’
Brian further suggests:
“It is significant that the nearside is primarily comprised of the so-called maria. The farside is determined to be mostly mountains, giving
the moon extremes in elevation greater than earth’s. The same condition would occur on Earth if the ocean’s and sea lost their water. If that
happened the atmosphere would seek the lowest level and fill up the oceans beds which reach depths of many miles. Since the earth’s oceans cover the
majority of its surfaces, millions of square miles would become uninhabitable because the air would be on the ocean bed. It is conceivable that life
and vegetation could exist in certain regions of the moon despite the long lunar days and nights. Sheltered canyons and valleys at the right
elevations and latitudes would not experience extremes of temperatures found in the uninhabitable areas.
The previous references to drifting clouds and mists suggest surface water. George Adamski reports mountain lakes and rivers which emptied into a
large body of water. He also saw snow on the peaks of peaks of higher mountains on the farside.
In his book, “Two sides of the Moon” (Thomas Dunne Books copyright 2004 ISBN 0-312-30865-5 EAN 978-0312-30865-0 David Scott, Commander of Apollo
15 wrote (page 291):
The view of the moon as we began our final descent was stunning. As we caught our first close-up look at the lunar mountains below us, Jim (Irwin)
lightened the atmosphere of growing tension and excitement a little with his usual dry humor.
“Make a great ski area if they’d just put some snow on it,” he said.
“Looks like there is in parts,” I replied adding, as I took a closer look at the horizon beyond, “The sky is just as black as the ace of
“Don’t think there is any atmosphere,” said Jim because, of course, on the Moon there isn’t. “I’m going to write me a joke,” he went on,
getting into his stride. “”Astronauts come back from moon; say it’s great, but has no atmosphere.”
“That’s a good,” I chuckled. “You ought to save that one for the surface some time.”
Excerpt from Moongate: Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program (The NASA-Military Cover-Up) by William L. Brian II:
Photographic analysis (Fred Steckling) shows that condensation of clouds take place at very low altitudes between 2 and 6 thousand feet.
Steckling says that the densest part of the atmosphere on the moon is to be found in the valleys and craters close to the so-called lunar sea level.
This law applies to earth so it should apply to the moon. The lunar clouds formed at these very low altitudes, seem to hug the mountain side, much
like the monsoon clouds over tropical islands on earth. While heavy cloud formation are quite rare and appear to depend on the seasons, they do occur
on occasion, mostly in the northern and southern hemisphere on the moon.
There are several natural lakes on the moon, close to the North Pole. These appear on photographs with a very black surface.
Color photos clearly show the color green in the shady areas of brown colored hills and craters, very much the appearance as the southwest desert
areas in the Untied States. While some color photos appear brown, others definitely show a green color.
Howard Menger reported a dense, breathable atmosphere and when reaching a terrain on the moon which reminded him of Nevada, claimed to have breathed
the lunar atmosphere. As expected, he held that the heat was extremely great, but that the air pressure was evidently adequate to sustain life/ He
also observed wind, a yellow sky overhead, and a yellowish-orange sky near the horizon. The colors indicate that the atmosphere at that elevation
might be deeper than the earths. As light passes through the atmosphere, it shifts to longer wavelengths. The yellow sky overhead indicates a longer
wavelength than the blue in Earth skies. Similarly the orange hue above the mountains can be attributed to light which is shifted in wavelength sill
more as a result of the increased thickness of the atmosphere when looking through it to the horizon. Menger’s description of the surface was
similar to Adamski’s: a yellowish-white, powdery sand with stones and miniscule plant life.”
The photo below is the crater Copernicus with the saffron colored sky that Howard Menger described. I contacted Mr. Menger at his home in Florida
(August 16, 2007) and asked him to select the exact color of saffron that I had provided by email to him the day before. Howard selected the color by
placing a mark on one of the 16 different swatches we had provided. The color of the sky in the photograph below is the color that is the closest
match to the color that Howard selected. Zorgon did the color matching and color sky on the photo below.
“Another indication of the moons gravity and dense lunar atmosphere was provided when Apollo spacecraft and lunar probes orbited the moon at an
average distance of 60 to 70 miles above the lunar surface. No specific reasons were given by NASA for choosing this height. In fact, the best
altitude for the Lunar Orbiter satellites would have been much lower. Lower altitudes would have produced more refined maps of the surface. Most Lunar
Orbiter camera altitudes where in the 1000 to 5000 kilometer distance.”
A few were taken at 44 kilometers (about 27 miles) about 150,000 feet. The only way they could do this was to use a highly elliptical orbit.”
A photograph of the moon taken by the 36 inch telescope at the Lick Observatory on January 17, 1946 shows the plume of dust/smoke/debris of an
apparent explosion 150 kms west north west of Endymion in the area between Schwabe and Thales. Debris of dust/smoke/rock appear to be thrown in a
radial pattern of more than 100 kilometers. The well-defined plume appears to rise several thousand feet and then, holding its cylindrical shape,
expands and drifts to the west north west for about 35 kilometers and then appears to rise to the top of the atmosphere while expanding somewhat.
The top of the atmosphere cannot be determined with any great accuracy because the top of the plume has been ‘cut off’ at the visual horizon of
the moon. The height of the plume at the ‘cut off’ however is estimated to be more than half the diameter of Endymion which was used to measure
it. The diameter of Endymion is 125 kilometers so the top of the atmosphere would be in excess of 62 kilometers or about 38 miles (200,000 feet). At
that point the plume is still intact. In a photo taken by Lick on May 3, 1947, about 16 months later the plume is still intact although does not
appear to extend upward as far.
The fact that the plume from the explosion is still intact and relatively unchanged in 16 months indicates a very stable atmosphere free from very
much disturbance. But it also poses the question, if there is substantial gravity on the moon, why is the dust/dirt/debris still apparently suspended
after 16 months?
A good print from a Lunar Orbiter 16 by 20 inch negative of LO-II-162 gave us close up look at a huge mining operation in the interior north face of
the crater Copernicus. Huge bucket excavators, buildings, vapor from storage tanks, platforms, equipment, all obviously in the process of mining.
An overhead view of this identical area taken a year or so later by Lunar Orbiter V provides ‘smoking gun’ evidence of this mining operation in
that we can see a ‘crane with an extended boom’ from the overhead view, the same as we can see it in the oblique view.
An enlarged photo taken by Apollo 8 (AS8-12-2209) clearly shows in the area to the northeast of Joliet-Curie and just south of the crater Lomonosov a
large city with buildings, streets, lights and vegetation and a curious ‘space port’ type structure with a bridge.
An nearside photo taken by Lunar Orbiter 1 shows a large area of mining operations in and around craters with roads, turnarounds, suspended lengths of
pipes, vehicles, sediment or dust ‘sprays’, a ‘control tower’ type building and other constructs.
A building 40 miles in length and 12 miles tall was photographed by Zond 3 in 1963. An arch with an approximate diameter of 10 miles is on the right
on the ‘contruct’ and three vertical cylindrical tanks, each of a different size sit on a ‘bench’ to the left.
A strange object dubbed the ‘mechanical dinosaur’ is located southeast on the crater Lomonosov.
On the southeastern shore of Mare Crisium on the Agarum Promontory rises a ‘contruct’ miles high:
A photo of King Crater on the farside shows large structures carefully disguised with airbrushing and cliffs with hanging vegetation.
A least 7 different photos of the crater Tsiolkovsky on the farside show the transformation of what appears to be a gigantic space ship into an
‘island’ in the middle of a black ‘mare’.
Another Apollo 8 photo (AS8-12-2189) shows a huge nearside city near Petavius B with many neat rows of lights which are regularly spaced.
A photo taken by an amateur astronomer of Endymion shows a clear view of several large, antenna-like constructs on its southeast edge.
Another part of the moon taken by that same astronomer shows the crater Aristarchus to very likely some kind of nuclear reactor, the blue glow being
the Cherbokov effect (the effect of radiation coming in contact with molecules of air).
Numerous other photos taken by the Lunar Orbiter series of lunar photographic satellites, photos taken by the Apollo astronauts and the Lick
Observatory photos show clear indications of buildings, bridges, lights, mining operations, and cities on the moon.
The above photographic and scientific evidence clearly shows that possibly our moon has an atmosphere and gravity very similar to our own. Not the
‘airless, 1/6th gravity, colorless, chalk-like, gray, dead world that NASA and others would like you to believe.
We also have the research of both V.A. Firsoff (Strange World of the Moon) and W.H. Pickering, respected astronmers, both of whom suggest an
atmosphere on the moon.
Firsoff and Pickering follow a long line of respected scientists and astronomers who not only believed the moon had an atmosphere but believed it had
Most of these astronomer/scientists were ridiculed for their beliefs.
Take of the case of Peter Andreas Hansen (1795-1874), eminently respected and decorated Danish mathematician and astronomer who served the Duke of
Mecklenburg as the head of the observatory at Seeburg, near Gotha (Germany). Hansen was acknowledged by a contemporary as “the greatest master of
celestial mechanics since Laplace.” Hansen’s lunar tables of 1857 were considered the finest done to that date and remained the standard for many
Hansen wrote a paper on the shape of the moon in 1854 and this paper was delivered before the royal Astronomical Society in French, and was published
in the Society’s Memoirs.
Hansen proposed that due to an ellipsoidal shape of the moon which he discovered because of slight discrepancy between the observe position of the
moon and its predicted position by calculation that the moon’s center of gravity was 59 kilometers farther from the earth than the geometric
As presented previously in this paper, Hansen stated (P.A.Hansen, “Sur la figure de la lune, Memoirs of the Royal Astronomical Society
One must consider the two hemispheres of the moon, of which one is visible and the other invisible to us, as essentially different with regard to
altitude, to climate and to all which depends on them. As the altitude is determined primarily by the distance from the center of gravity, the
hemisphere of the moon turned toward us is elevated above the average altitude and above the opposite hemisphere. Therefore the former present itself
to us as a sterile land, deprived of an atmosphere and all life, but one can no longer conclude that the other hemisphere does not have an atmosphere,
nor that it has no vegetation or living things. The sides of the moon would be at a mean altitude, and cannot say that any trace of atmosphere would
Hansen’s moon civilization theory was enthusiastically received until 14 years later a respected military gentleman came over from the United States
of America to say a few unkindly words about Hansen and his theory about a lunar civilization. In his zeal to discredit Hansen this man never produced
any evidence to refute Hansen’s hypothesis. What he said was: “In the case of evection, the supposed discordance between theory and observation
would not follow from Hansen’s hypothesis, and therefore, even if it exists, cannot be attributed to that hypothesis.”
The man was held in such high regard by the European community that they abandoned Hansen and his moon civilization theory without bothering to ask
for any evidence or substantiation.
Hansen challenged the man to a debate but the man made himself unavailable slipping stealthily back to the United States. Hansen died 3 years
The man from the United States of American was Rear Admiral Simon Newcomb, Director of the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C.
While none of this is absolute proof or even proof of a breathable atmosphere on the moon it certainly does provide reason to suggest that we may have
not been told all that NASA knows about the moon and the Navy is just as deep in the cover-up as anybody else.