Originally posted by undo

Haha! Yeah...I did not realize that John Lenard was santamonicajohn. I have recently seen his photo stills and movie clips on youtube. Some of Lenards crafts look extremely similar to the California Drones, one of which was photographed about 20 miles from my home. Very interesting.

That's it?

It does appear that the Lenard "Instellar" related images are the weak link in the chain, and they are being used as a diversion from addressing the rest of the evidence. For the benefit of the readers, could you perhaps look at the rest of the material as well?

I'm interested in seeing what the scientific minds of this forum, think of the documentation. So far though, all I keep hearing about are the Lenard images. That's very disappointing.

Originally posted by johnlear
I am estimating that there are 3 and possibly 5 secret space stations the size or larger than ISS.

They are probably all in the same orbital plane as ISS so that moving between them is a simple matter of undocking, a small burst of thrust, wait for the next secret space station in the orbital plane to 'catch up' add a little thrust to match the secret space station and dock.

You could do that all day long with a minimum amount of fuel. And of course we are not talking about Shuttle sized OMS, we are talking small thrusters because we are talking about small changes in orbital speed.

This might be a good way to deliver food and supplies once it is delivered to the ISS. Maybe there is a little 'ShuttleTug': one small engine, one astronaut and a cargo compartment.

These secret space stations shouldn't be to hard to see once you know where to look. If, in fact, they were all in the same orbital plane as I suspect, you just wait for the ISS to come across the sky in all its brilliance and glory, then get out your binoculars and NVG's and watch the exact same orbital path that the ISS made across the sky for about 90 minutes.

You should see anywhere from 3 to 5 dimly lit space stations cross in the same path each about 15 to 30 minutes apart. Since they are probably equally spaced if we find one, then by using the timing it passed by after the ISS we can find the others.

Now, if all three to five secret space stations are all in different orbits then there is a gigantic problem of supply. They would then have to send up one Progress or other space vehicle every week or month to each separate station as it would be difficult but not impossible to fly from one secret space station in one orbit to another secret space station in a completely different orbit which would require a considerable amount of fuel.

No wonder the United States Strategic Command is so big. I'm getting a headache just thinking about the possibliities.

I never said I was done viewing this material and I am not here to report to you.

Originally posted by undo

I never said I was done viewing this material and I am not here to report to you.

I'm asking as an ATS member, who wants to Deny Ignorance, that you provide some review of the material provided, for the benefit of all concerned. I'm not trying to be bossy. (I can't help myself, anyway. I'm a mom, three times, and none of them have ever called me "Sir." But occassionally, they do get side-tracked into irrelevancies. It's a communication skill and teaching aide, but in this case, I'm asking you to enlighten the rest of us with your opinion of the material. )

John,

is it possible that the stations are chained between here and Mars? Like a convoy through the desert with the occassional oasis along the way, gas stations on a stretch of desert highway?

And I am going to provide a review of this material that is provided to ALL of us because I am the only one that has eyes and can see it?

Originally posted by sherpa
I wasn't sure about the US side of things but I have to admit there did seem to be a lot of cargo going up in the Russian M vehicles, especially propellant I couldn't see how the ISS could be using that much fuel.

Originally posted by sherpa
Something about Apollo 15 showing a lot of interest in Tsiolkovsky now when was Apollo 15 1971 ?, so why would they be interested if we were already there ?

Originally posted by johnlear

I used Five Finger Discount to get the stop leak to make it down to Vegas.

Originally posted by undo
Unless you're just here to play head games, I'd suggest you actually read the content of the thread. Read Zorgon's posts, check the links, read the material, view the PDF files, examine the diagrams. Do something more productive than this .........whatever it is you're supposed to be accomplishing here.

The Journal of the Astronautical Sciences, Vol. XXVII, No. 1, pp. 3962, January March, 1979
Anchored Lunar Satellites for Cislunar Transportation and Communication1
Jerome Pearson2

Abstract:
The concept is examined of anchored lunar satellites, balanced about the collinear libration points Li and L2 of the Earth-moon system and attached to the lunar surface. The design parameters of such satellites are examined by applying the equations of the restricted three-body problem; the material strengths required are within those of available composite materials. Anchored lunar satellites could launch lunar materials throughout cislunar space electrically for 0.75 kilowatthour per kilogram, could provide essentially continuous lunar farside communications without station keeping propellants, and could supply a lunar base without lunar landing rockets.