Bob Lazar on John Lear
Lazar says: "Well, John Lear's a nice guy. I like him, but he does have the tendency to add about fifteen percent color to stories, and if a story goes through him twice, it's thirty percent, and it doesn't stop."

Originally posted by johnlear
Please don't consider yourself an appointed or self-appointed emissary from the John Lear thread "Did The Space Shuttle Dock At The Secret Space Station Tonight" because you are not.

ISS Advanced Technology Testbeds
The International Space Station (ISS) is already being used to conduct tests of
technology, materials and software for applications in future space platforms and on ISS
itself.

Originally posted by zorgon
The Service Vehicle...

Originally posted by zorgon
The Heavy Lifters... (Remember the name Star Booster)

Originally posted by zorgon
The Shuttle outfitted from LEO to Lunar orbit carrying the Cargo ship attached below... (Remember the name "Aquila")

Take a long hard look at this one...

Originally posted by zorgon
Here is the cover sheet that came with the document I just presented the images from... I will add more on the website later as time allows...

This report summarizes the principal system features defined for the advanced technology space station and describes 21 pacing technologies identified during the course of the study….
The description of systems show a potential for synergies and identifies the benefical interactions that can result from technological advances.

THE ISS

Presented for Jack Arneson
Member of Pegasus

Jack and I have been very busy digging through documents and following trails. This will be a continuing project as new stuff comes out of the closet

Yes, it's very pretty. But pretty much useless as well and obsolete, like the Shuttle. Investigations on cosmic radiation and other space physics can be accomplished on unmanned satellites. Onboard systems are failing and can't be upgraded to new technology as it's design prevents easy retrofitting. Electrical as well as other systems hardware would need to be completely replaced throughout the station.

What I believe it's main mission is today is a pick-up point for other missions kept under wraps.

A Home Depot in space....

...supplying food, fuel and other equipment to space stations and craft on secret missions. Of course I can't prove this but
what else is all the stuff going up there for? Yes, some of the equipment is for the station to maintain it's integrity. It needs to stay operational until another system goes online. I'm still gathering information so more follow-ups will follow.

But look at what The NASA channel is showing about it's mission. All you ever see is short, selected video of the station orbiting the Earth in one minute segments. And internal video of personnel banging away on computers or eating Jell-O in zero gravity. NASA has been spouting about the new High Definition Television cameras all over the station, pointing to different areas and Earth.

Well, why don't they have a Hi-Def channel for us to see this amazing footage? Or even broadcast any footage?

NASA does broadcast the Shuttle launches in HD but...we never get to see any Shuttle footage when it reaches orbit insertion, on it's way to the station or on it's way back. Why?.. Because they're seeing things and doing things they don't want us to see. Whether it be UFO's, other space craft rendezvous, docking at secret space stations, etc.I need to investigate this much more so just chew on that for a while.

Russian Launches to the ISS in January, May & August 2007:

Now it seems to me, this is an extraordinarily large amount of food and water for three people. How would they keep fruit and vegetables from spoiling? You can't freeze fresh fruit and vegetables... Well, you can but freezing would ruin them. And it was fresh, not dehydrated, cooked or freeze dried.

Google this and you can find many references to the fresh fruit.

Progress-M 59...

...is a Russian automatic cargo carrier that was launched by a Soyuz rocket from Baikonur at 02:12 UT on 18 January 2007, toward the International Space Station.

It carried 2.5 tons of food, fuel, water and equipment and docked with the PIRS module of the ISS at 03:03 UT on 20 January.

Notice the January flight doesn't break-down the individual weights.How much of that was food and water? And it doesn't take three days to reach the station! All launches are supposed to be timed to make an orbit (a couple of hours at most) and then dock.

What was going on in those three days?

Progress-M 60...

...is a Russian automatic cargo carrier that was launched by a Soyuz-U rocket from Baikonur at 03:25 UT on 12 May 2007.

It carried 45 kg of air, 419 kg of water, and 1.4 tons of dry cargo, 241 kg of fresh fruits and vegetables, 136 kg of medical equipment.

It docked automatically with the Zvezda module of the ISS at 05:10 UT on 15 May 2007.(docked on the fourth day) Four days to reach the ISS? There is no explanation for this behavior.

Documentation...

This article also shows the timeline. The last three paragraphs show the M-60 was not on an ISS course. There were nine separate major thruster-burns in the three days before docking. Do you see how one can find discrepancies with innocent comments?

We are finding alot of information this way. You'll never find anything asking direct questions about a direct subject. One needs to look at the overall picture of any subject and break-down the subtleties and you'll find them.

I watched the Hi-Def 30 minute broadcast of an "interview" with one of the crew members of the ISS on Discovery HD channel on 08/15/07. (on all this week at different times) Ten minutes of it was on what they eat. No mention of fresh fruit or vegetables. The Commander showed dehydrated food packets, fruit juice packets and everything was in packets. Not a banana, apple or veggie in sight or even mentioned.

Now that is intriguing.

I also watched the broadcast of STS 118 crew member Barbara Morgan on 08/16/07, talking to Idaho students via HAM radio. One student asked about her favorite food she eats on the station. M&M's was her choice and she explained that all their food was in packets and vacuum sealed. Some was dehydrated and some in cooked form which they could heat-up for meals. Again...no mention of fresh fruit and veggies. So I ask you again...

...where is the fruit and veggies going? And there's alot of it.

Jack Arneson....

Helium Mining on the Moon
The feasibility of recovering helium from the moon as a source of fusion energy on earth is currently being studied at the university of Wisconsin

Information on the regional distribution and extent of high-Ti regoliths come mainly from two sources: direct sampling from various Apollo and Luna missions, and remote gamma-ray spectroscopy .

Do you know how long it takes a manned mission to reach the Moon?

19 minutes to reach outer Earth orbit insertion after lift-off.
90 minutes to reach low Earth orbit after lift off.

Two days to reach the Moon after they leave low Earth orbit. And this was Apollo 17, 35 years ago. So why does it take 4 days to reach the ISS?

Progress M class Automatic Cargo Carrier Is An Unmanned Craft. What is the 1.4 tons of "dry cargo" in the May flight? I haven't been able to find any reference to it except that. And 100lbs of air? The station makes it's own air that's part of the life support system.

Although the Russian built oxygen generator Elektron failed in Jan.'07, it's was repairable after extensive diagnosis and spare parts were employed. A hundred pounds would keep you alive for about 5 minutes. Uncompressed, a cubic yard of air weighs about 2.5 lbs

Didn't know that did you?

A typical divers air tank can hold between 1700 and 2400 lbs of compressed air. At a depth of 33 feet, a diver consumes 50 lbs per minute. So what is 100 lbs being used for? The fuel system? I doubt that very much. The station only has attitude thrusters for orientation. The station is dependent on visiting vehicles to adjust it's altitude when needed.

The station already has back-up air supplies on hand and enough for several months. Although some air is lost every time air-locks are opened to do an EVA. And I saw a reference to that somewhere but 100 lbs wouldn't even make a dent in air lock loss.

Delta 4 Specs
• Delta IV Medium and Medium+ vehicles use 4-m (13.1-ft) or 5-m (16.6-ft) diameter composite fairings.
• The Delta IV Heavy vehicle uses a 5-m (16.6-ft) diameter composite fairing or a 19.8-m (65-ft) long, 5-m (16.6-ft) diameter aluminum fairing.
• Delta IV vehicles can launch payloads weighing from 4,300 kg (9,480 lb) to 12,980 kg (28,620 lb) to GTO, and can lift over 23,000 kg (50,000 lbs.) to LEO.

Sea Launch Specs
Sea Launch Rocket:
• Stages 1 & 2: Zenit-3SL.
• Stage 3: Energia-produced Block DM-SL.
• Payload enclosure and interfaces: Boeing.
• Widest diameter 14 feet.
• Overall length 209 feet.
• All stages kerosene/liquid oxygen fueled.
• Capacity to geosynchronous transfer orbit:
over 6,100 kg.

Sealaunch News
Sea Launch experienced an unsuccessful launch on January 30 during our 24th mission. We have concluded a Failure Review Oversight Board focused on the extensive investigation conducted by a CIS Interagency Commission. With repairs on the Launch Platform moving on schedule, we are progressing toward plans for the next mission in the 4th Quarter of 2007.
Please look for us at the following meetings:
• September 3-6 - World Satellite Business Week, Paris, France
• September 18-20 - APSCC 2007 Satellite Conference and Exhibition, Bangkok, Thailand
• September 18-20 - AIAA Space 2007 Satellite Conference and Exposition, Long Beach, California

Originally posted by zorgon
PROGRESS M REPORT
Here is another important point from Jack...

Do you know how long it takes a manned mission to reach the Moon?

Apollo Soyuz
The final mission of the Apollo program was docking in space with a Russian Soyuz capsule. In July 1975 three Americans in an Apollo craft and two Russians in a Soyuz capsule conducted joint activities for nearly two days. Thomas P. Stafford, Vance D. Brand and Donald K. Slayton were the three American astronauts and the Cosmonauts were Alexey A. Leonov and Valery N. Kubasov.
Both craft were launched on July 15, 1975. Rendezvous occurred at 12:12pm (EDT) July 17, 1974. The crews exchanged commemorative flags and other gifts on live television. Though many people felt this mission only served a public relations role, there were a number of technological breakthroughs. The most important was the knowledge gained from docking two completely different spacecraft, each with unique atmospheric conditions.

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by zorgon
The following information and pictures are from a NASA contractors report I ordered from NASA... It is a 198 page contractors report giving dimensions, I-beam loads, support vehicles, etc, etc,

The Final report was completed May 1986 to Oct 1988 and the document was released in 1990...

The only thing I can find on this online is the following:
ISS Advanced Technology Testbeds

Space Shuttle
start at T minus 6.6 seconds. The main engines ignite sequentially via the shuttle's general purpose computers (GPC's) at 120 millisecond intervals. The GPC's require that the engines reach 90% of their rated performance to complete the final gimbal of the main engine nozzles to liftoff configuration.[7] When the SSMEs start, the water from the sound suppression system flashes into a large volume of steam that shoots southward.