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reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 07:56 PM by souls
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Can you give me an example?

There are no "editorial" decisions in moving threads that are influenced by business concerns (since 99.9% of the people moving threads are members of "the best staff on the Internet"(tm))


Of course. A couple days ago I made a
thread . my thread was moved for the resaon that it was just general news and had no conspirational value. He also said that the topic I brought up does good in that section he moved it to, that it gets a lot of attention. Well, I begged to differ, and that thread in specific does have the potential of a conspiracy. I showed UM_GAZZ that the thread did belong in Alternative Breaking News, and I also showed him that he is moving my thread when there are other threads in the same section that clearly do not belong there, even some written by himself.

He moved my thread back, but messaging me that why I make it a big deal that if it was all about points. I answered him back saying that Im not making it a big deal, im just looking for an impartial decision and that yes it is about points.

Obviously it is about points. What other way can members access areas and features of the website if it is not done through points? R.A.T.S.?

Anyway, he moved the thread back to the General Breaking News section and left it at that. I was trying to think to my self why in the first place they would move my thread to BTS when it belonged on ATS. Clearly it did, otherwise he would not have moved it back.

To me this just says that in the eve of your expansion, as a bussiness, in order for investors to be attracted to ATS and the sister sites, there needs to be a certain amount of traffic, good one at that. Now, it just seems that maybe BTS is not doing so hot since it is very sheepish, and not at the same level of content and traffic that ATS generates. As a bussiness, you need to find ways to improve that traffic so that the investors can be attracted. By moving a thread that clearly belonged to that section, and overlooking others that clearly do not, just makes it a little bit suspicious.

I'm probably wrong and it could be another "isolated" case, but isn't this thread we are posting on now, belong on Breaking General News? Maybe we can find a conspiracy in this thread?

[edit on 26-7-2007 by souls]


reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 08:55 PM by SkepticOverlord
I think Mark was "laughing" because the points had been covered, but let me try to expand...

Originally posted by Yarcofin
From an investor standpoint and being an investor myself, I don't see why anyone would "invest" in ATS.

The investment is in "The Above Network, LLC" which has provided a proprietary and detailed business plan for consideration by the investors. A good portion of that plan involves AboveTopSecret.com... but the "big idea" that has inspired investment is some ground-breaking concepts in user-generated content, and how ATS can become a leader in certain techniques.


I just don't see where the revenue is going to come from, unless a mass-merchandising operation starts up.

You don't have the benefit of the business plan, so it certainly would be difficult to speculate on what revenue we project, and where it comes from. But suffice to say, we anticipate a reasonable return simply by continuing to do what we've always done -- inspire meaningful discussion and promote the hell out of it.


Although ATS LLC (does that make it a partnership or a corporation?) probably has very little debt, from all reports it sounds like they are just barely scratching enough together to pay for the necessary server and other web-hosting related updates.

LLC = Limited Liability Company -- a mix of corporate and partnership

The idea of seeking investment is to gather up a cash reserve that covers tactics not normally supported by monthly revenue. The long term hope is that by investing in promotion (we have a PR firm), advertising (it's already started), new technology (this weekend), content development (ATS MIX and a book by Jim Marrs), and a few other surprises will ultimately improve the value of the company such that the equity purchase by the investor is worth more than the original purchase price.


reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 09:13 PM by souls
Originally posted by UM_Gazz
I'm a bit confused by your post, I moved your thread back to the General Breaking news forum?

For clarification, I moved your thread to the General Breaking news forum. Not back.


I recieved three e-mails saying that my thread was moved. The original, the second, and the third. Now it could be an error on my part because I just delete those emails and could have mistaken it with just the second, but...I don't often doubt my self. The issue was the first move.

We have three breaking news forums, and we try to make the best use of all three. Everyone likes to submit news to the alternative forum, and on occasion we move some topics to the Breaking Political news forum, or to the general news forum.


And I'm guessing those on occasion moves are based on the content of the thread and were it appropriately fits? Right?

Anyway, I am sorry if this gave anyone the impression that I am making these decisions based on business, as I can assure you, I have nothing to gain financially from here, we moderators are strictly volunteers. And we do this job out of our care for this online community. We are not perfect, but we try to always do the right things here.


I don't see your need to apologize to anybody. Did you do something wrong?

For example, no one even approved me posting the news in the opening post of this thread,.. I did it because I thought it was an important NEWS item relevant to ATS, and important to all members. Did I do the right thing?

Well, I haven't been fired yet!


That doesn't mean it is not in the wrong section according to the sections posting guidelines found
here .

This form is for the submission of conspiracy themed or other "alternative topic" news and breaking current events that fit within the topical theme of AboveTopSecret.com.
Off-topic submissions are subject to immediate removal.
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