schwarzenegger Skull and Bones, in your face photo, page 8
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reply posted on 1-9-2007 @ 08:38 AM by 11Bravo
reply to post by peabody



I know the impulse is to just post your own opinions, but you really should read the thread first.

Your assertion has been addressed in more than one post.

Open your mind, read what others write, and resist the urge to tell us how ignorant we are.


reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 08:20 PM by greeneyedleo
I cant believe that people are making connections here with a "fashionable" belt buckle and other symbols.

First the Skull/crossbones on the buckle do not look like the Nazi or S&C image. They are drawn completely different.

Second, the skull and crossbone fashion is very big right now. In fact, I actually have a pendant that is all diamonds that is a skull & crossbones

Some people can make something out of nothing.....and that is what has been done IMO.

I suppose anytime I wear skull & crossbone stuff, im telling the world I support Nazis? That is ridiculous. Every person has a skull and other bones in them. It means nothing unless you want it to mean something. I personally just like the look.

As far as Arnold goes. LMAO. He is a big fat joke. Cant stand the dude.


On a side note.....im not into buckles, but the artist who made it has a lot of great work - many different things including crosses and butterflies!!! Sounds like Arnold was just giving someone some free publicity - the artist
Lee Downey

And what he has to say about this "conspiracy"



Its probably about the 4th one in a series of 10 that I made between 2005 and 2006. The little bits on the border are Fleur de Lis....(thats French, oh no)....not German eagles! I am fairly sure that the 4 corner stones are uncut natural diamond crystals. I used those on only one of the series. This one was purchased at Falconhead this past spring, in Brentwood, California.


and


One thing I can tell you for sure is this...Arnold has excellent taste in belt buckles! Trust me, I know...I made the bloody thing. And I can tell you for certain the basis of its design and the symbol of the skull have ZERO, ZIP, NADA, NOL, ZILCH to do with WW2. Goodness. I am making a set of cufflinks to match the buckle and sending them to the Guv, mostly cause I LOVE The Terminator pics, and the fantastic art that went into creating the skeletal frame, and of course the skull. Love sci-fi, and those pics are amongst the best, for me. And for him as well. He should be and obviously is confident that he is conducting himself properly in the public eye. I take issue that he sought to offend anyone, or is broadcasting his inner angst by wearing my buckle. I sell to lots of high profile people, they get to have style too



There. No conspiracy.


[edit on 12-10-2007 by greeneyedleo]


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 09:03 PM by Tantris
Here's a KKK site that gives an example of current use of the Totenkopf as a Hate Symbol. There are many other examples of hate groups that use this type of symbol. Sure the skull is in fashion now, but it is also in fashion as a symbol of Nazism and has been for nearly 80 years.

kelticklankirk.com...

There is no copyright on a standard Totenkopf symbol that extremists are required to use when they want to indicate in public that they a admirers of Hitler. They can use practically any skull to show that. In fact, they don't normally want to use a Totenkopf in public that can unquestionably be identified as a rassist symbol. Someone may react violently in that case.

A Governor should not be wearing anything in the international media that can remotely be construed as a hate symbol. At the very least Schwarzenegger, being the "nice guy" that he is, should explain why he is wearing a symbol that can be perceived as showing support for Nazism on the cover of Time Magazine. Schwarzenegger is a gigantic, major a**hole, who thinks he can intentionally wear a racist symbol in the international media with impunity (in my humble opinion).

Maybe I'm getting old, but I don't think people would have taken this laying down a couple of decades ago. I guess people have forgotten what Nazism means and are complacent now about 20-30 million human beings being slaughtered in Eastern Europe including 10 Millionen in human slaughter houses or shot in the head and buried by the thousands in ditches or starved to death, because the Nazis denied them food and supplies.

There should be no doubt in peoples' minds that a Governor has no Nazi sympathies. Being a "nice guy" is not enough. They say Reinhard Heydrich, the architect of the Holocaust, was also a nice guy, but I wouldn't vote for him for Governor California and sure as hell not for President.


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 09:39 PM by Wizard_In_The_Woods
reply to post by Tantris



Please correct me if I’m wrong. But according to your logic all the kids wearing Halloween costumes with Skulls are Nazis too. And you might as well include Michael Bloomberg also, as a potential Nazi sympathizer since he’s obviously happily hangin’ out — and smiling!! — with a big, gigantic major racist Nazi of an Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Hate groups don’t own that symbol (Totenkopf) you know. Albeit, it is not as pleasant as a hippie peace symbol. Our US military plasters the thing (Skull over Bones emblem) all over the place also, on bombs and planes and tanks.

Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 10:03 PM by Tantris
Yeah, I'll correct you. This is no kid going to a Holloween Party and not a simple biker out on a weekend jaunt. This is the Governor of California appearing on the cover of Time Magazine which is seen all over the World and cover shots are not done haphazardly with whatever clothes you happen to be wearing on any particular day. He's wearing a symbol that can be perceived as a symbol of Nazism and is often used in that way by the KKK and neo-Nazi groups.

His father was a fanatical Nazi who joined the Brown Shirts shortly after they carried out the Kristallnacht Pogrom, in which Jewish businesses and Synagogues were destroyed, looted and burned down all over Germany and Austria and the Brown shirts rounded up many thousands of Jews to ship off in cattle cars to concentration camps. His father volunteered for the Brown Shirts in Graz at a time that 2,000 Jews were being rounded up in Graz to be sent to the concentration camps. All that being considered, if Schwarzenegger should not be careful about such things when he appears in the national media, I'm not sure who should. His father likely had a Totenkopf at home in his closet with his old SA uniforms.

Schwarzenegger has become wealthy and famous by caring about his image. I'm sure he knows what this symbol can mean. The classic Totenkopf is almost certainly illegal in his home country. I know for a fact that it is definitely illegal in Germany, where he went to school. People know there what this symbol means more than Americans.

This is a clear case of a public official flaunting a racist symbol in the international media. The media should explain this to the public, but they won't touch it. I don't know about skull and cross bones conspiracies, but you don't need a conspiracy to get angry about this. Schwarzenegger is a crackpot and a joker. He should be take to task about this.

Since the media won't report this, the word should be spread on the Internet until Schwarzenegger has to acknowledge it and explain it. Those who can and are willing please help out by spreading the word. Let's make an example of this Idiot.

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