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Originally posted by jbondo
and yes we are directed to assemble in groups.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
FF, you never cease to amaze me. Oh, the big powerful pope admits that others have some of the truth? Jeeeeeeeeze.... :shk:
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Christ was against organized religion, period.
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Well you could outlaw organized religion but then again what constitutes organized religion.
Scripture states that Christ went to the synagoge 'as He was in the habit of doing ... ' (don't remember exactly where that is) and He also said that He would 'build His church ... ' Matthew 16-18 ...
If he was against organized religion He wouldn't have went to the Synagoges and He wouldn't have given His stamp of approval by preaching in them. At least .. I don't think He would have.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You didn't read my post, did you?
Like i said, it's more fun to bash the pope and/or the Catholic faith then to understand the CONTEXT that the statement was made in. Go back and read the entire article. .... and my post.
In Roman Catholicism Apostolic church = THE true church.
Other churches are churches but not 'true churches' ... as in - not apostolic.
It's not that hard to understand ... if you really wanted to understand what he said.
:shk:
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You didn't read my post, did you?
Originally posted by NGC2736
Gee, I read all of this, and I see G. W. Bush. with his whole "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.
Thankfully, I am a Native American, and to me the concept of organized worship is as idiotic as the idea of tap dancing fish. How some people ever came to the idea, and others accepted it, that any relationship between man and a Creator could be other than totally personal is beyond me.
But then, I realize that the Catholic church has confession, where people feel the need to discuss their sex lives, so I guess nothing is too personal for some folks.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Shadowflux
it's no different than when an Imam says that only Islam is the true religion, or if a Rabbi were to say Judaism is the true religion.
It's very offensive ...
He certainly isn't a follower of Jesus.
Have we ever known Jesus to be exclusive?
Christ 'established here on earth' only one church," the document said. The other communities "cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense" because they do not have apostolic succession — the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
To be a 'true church' in Catholicism one must have apostolic succession. Without it you are 'a church' but not 'a true church'.
The Catholic Catechism says that ALL CHRISTIAN FAITHS have some truth, to varying degrees, in them. The Catholic Catechism also says that only the Catholic faith has it all correct and is therefore 'THE church'.
Every faith believes they are the ones to have it right and that all others have only part - or none- of it right.
Originally posted by marg6043
Did you read the rest of mine, Flyers I always have agree with the fact that after the first Church in Rome any other church is nothing more than bastard children trying to emulate the First church.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
I don't care if those in Islam say that I am not in the 'true faith'. I don't care if fundamentalist Christians say that I'm not a true Christian (I think they are idiots ..
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Have we ever known Jesus to be exclusive?
The Catholic faith welcomes everyone who believes what the faith preaches.