Well in my opinion, I believe global warming is real, and I'm all for the change. And no, its not from listening to Al Gore, however I will say, he
did strengthen my interest in global warming, but he did not sparked it. I've actually did my own research on it, heck I did 3 months of research
because I had to write two essays on the "Global Warming" topic, on both side (whether it was man-made or natural occurrences) and trust me I had to
use mostly scholarly resources. (p.s: I have a reason for saying this!)
But I do agree with you guys on somethings, I don't see how music concert has anything to do with promoting or spreading awareness about climate
change, its effect and the solution.
Also, I don't see why its wrong to have sponsorship, I mean its a great way to raise some money, for events and good causes, but I will stress again,
I do not condone to the way they use the money for concerts instead of research or other effective methods of spreading awareness.
And yes, while many companies are probably funding "eco-friendly" causes for their build their "ethos" (reputation), most of the time people
really ignore those giant sponsor signs or logo. I mean honestly you guys proved it: no one buys the fact that these product companies is
"eco-friendly." We're not that stupid.
As for the celebrity thing, while I'm sure some are truly for the cause, and others are probably trying to make a name for themselves. I do believe
its a pretty ingenious plan, I mean most youth today's role models are those disgusting Hollywood celebrities, I don't know why, but they do, and if
their role models creates a trend they will follow it, in this case "thinking-green." Though I will do get annoyed how all of the big name celebrity
will eventually get credit for paying a "big" part in stopping global warming. URGH!!
But, hey if 50 years from now we discover global warming isn't real, well I have to say what so bad about using eco-friendly energy, recycling, and
protecting trees. Heck it beats landfills, and plus there is a correlation between air quality and health, if we can cut pollution, isn't that a
reason to move forward.
Counter Argument, CO2:
Oh, about what Chupa101 said, he is right, how the Ordovician period had a higher CO2 concentration than it does now. And how only 0.04% of the
Earth's total atmosphere is carbon dioxide. (97% of the atmosphere is actually water vapor!!) Basically for those who don't understand what Chupa101
is trying to say, I'll summarize it: Normally when temperature are low, carbon dioxide would usually sink and stay trapped in the ice or frigid
water, this process known as "carbon sequestration" or"carbon sinking," I guess the dilemma is how could their possibly 4400 ppm of CO2, when the
environment was suitable for the process.
Well base on this article, you have your answer (Note:It takes information from peer-reviewed journal know as "Geology," so it has a lot of
credibility:
researchnews.osu.edu...
Basically the article states that:
This particular ice age didn’t begin when CO2 was at its peak -- it began 10 million years earlier, when CO2 levels were at a low.
Saltzman and doctoral student Seth Young found that large deposits of quartz sand in Nevada and two sites in Europe -- Norway and Estonia -- formed
around the same time, 440 million years ago. The scientists suspect that the sand formed when water levels fell low enough to expose quartz rock, so
that wind and rain could weather the rock into sand.
The fact that the deposits were found in three different sites suggests that sea levels may have been low all over the world at that time, likely
because much of the planet’s water was bound in ice at the poles, Saltzman said.
Next, the scientists examined limestone sediments from the sites and determined that there was a relatively large amount of organic carbon buried in
the oceans -- and, by extension, relatively little CO2 in the atmosphere -- at the same time.
Taken together, the evidence suggests that the ice began to build up some 10 million years earlier than when volcanoes began pumping the atmosphere
full of the CO2 that ended the Ordovician ice age.
On a note, maybe life on earth could handle with the high concentration of CO2 back then, but not today, if CO2 levels ever get that high, it could
probably cause genetic mutation if we survive, but I like to think death.
So is The Sun, THE TRUE CULPRIT?
Not likely my friends, and please don't even point me to the direction of "Solar Warming" because I will figuratively break that finger, well I
will provide evidences to counter your claim. But, since I don't need to provide a counter argument, I'll provide you guys with evidence about the
sun role:
"From my essay:"
Recent studies done by astrophysicists Peter Foukal of Heliophysics, Inc. and Hendrik C. Spruit, of the Max Planck Institute for Astrophysics in
Garching, Germany, suggested that solar activity has been on the rise for the past two hundred years.
However, based on rare isotopes and temperatures trapped in sea sediments and Greenland/Antarctic ice caused by solar radiation produced from solar
activities such as sunspots and faculae, shows that the sun has only been getting brighter only by 0.04 %, which is too small to cause any significant
changes in any planetary climate (Flores, 2007)."
You guys might tell me what about occurrences such as solar oscillation like the Medieval Maximum, where temperature were much warmer then they are
now.
The problem with solar oscillation, more specifically the oscillation during the period of the Medieval Maximum, was that it was limited to regional
climate change. The regional climate change appeared to occur within only the northern hemisphere and not the southern hemisphere, suggesting that the
warming was caused by atmospheric changes, and not solar changes. New studies also show that during the Maunder Minimum, the Northern Hemisphere
cooled, and the Southern Hemisphere warmed up. It is important to note that none of these cases can actually be compared to Earth’s present
situation since the climate changes were regional and not global. (Tyson, P.D., and W. Karlen. “’The Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming in South
Africa." )
My apologize for the bad bad grammatical errors, its 3am!! But I hope I shed some light, please don't stop thinking green because of a few
hypocrites.
[edit on 8-7-2007 by skyblueff0]
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