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Originally posted by frailty
But I think the important thing you are saying is that if their was genuine top secret information present, things would have been taken a lot more seriously and the feds would taken action swifter, and people would have probably not gotten a chance to see it.
Originally posted by frailty
So the terrorist connection makes more sense, now. My questions would have to be why would they use UFO-related websites? And why would they get into getting into UFO hoaxes? I know you may not able to answer these questions.
Originally posted by frailty
So are you implying that a site like ATS could be created and used for data mining and communication by "terrorists, spies, non friendly intelligence agencies, etc?" So how would I know that ATS itself wasn't created by one of these nefarious groups?
Originally posted by frailty
If I get banned for this, I guess I have my answer. LOL!
Originally posted by -Jaguar-
There's a quote by ISAAC Newton on top of all the Halo 3 viral marketing pages... Maybe I'm stretchig it a bit.
Drones are listed on the Halo 3 website under characters, but they look like insects.
[edit on 27-6-2007 by -Jaguar-]
Originally posted by Springer
Originally posted by frailty
But I think the important thing you are saying is that if their was genuine top secret information present, things would have been taken a lot more seriously and the feds would taken action swifter, and people would have probably not gotten a chance to see it.
That's correct.
Originally posted by Springer
Originally posted by frailty
But I think the important thing you are saying is that if their was genuine top secret information present, things would have been taken a lot more seriously and the feds would taken action swifter, and people would have probably not gotten a chance to see it.
That's correct.
Originally posted by RING0
Originally posted by wildone106
Why on earth would they need a viral marketing campaign to the very demographic that's gonna see it ANYWAY. It'd be a complete waste of money..they wanna get the average joe people in on this. Last time I checked no one outside of the UFO community even knows or cares about Chad or Isaac
plus the Transformers movie has a huge budget already I doubt they'd waste it on low rent CGI like this hoax.
Good point, but the involvement of Speilburg and his history with big UFO movies adds some doubt. If I were involved with the movie I wouldn't go the hoax route, but viral advertising campaigns have garnered quite a bit of free coverage from the press in the past and perhaps they were hoping for similar media coverage from the big network news programs. That would then get the word out to the general populace. It has not happened yet though. I don't see this Chad drone affair as low budget, too much time to organize the "witnesses" and the supporting materials seem to have some serious man hours devoted to there development.
[edit on 2-7-2007 by RING0]
[edit on 2-7-2007 by RING0]
Originally posted by wildone106
I dont see Spielberg doin the whole Viral marketing strategy either, his name could sell anything pretty much without any advertising at all! I figure with ILM at their disposal they could come up with a much better CGI drone and object (isaacs) and make it more convincing if that's their goal. I take viral marketing for companys or products that dont have the money to do a legitimate one (right?) is'nt that the point of it.
This seems a little ambiguous if it is one..whats the connection to the drone with the Transformers? It looks nothing like the robots I've seen, does'nt transform or bare any resemblence to them..no clues as to what movie its trying to plug ect ect..it fails miserably!
But perhaps you are right, it certainly rings hoax to me..but as for the purpose we will find out shortly
Originally posted by srb2001
It has been remarked on another forum that the alien language design on the "Isaac" documents resembles, or may have been inspired by, Trek's Klingon alphabet or the Vegan construction schematics used in the movie "Contact".
Originally posted by srb2001
It has been remarked on another forum that the alien language design on the "Isaac" documents resembles, or may have been inspired by, Trek's Klingon alphabet or the Vegan construction schematics used in the movie "Contact".
Originally posted by wildone106
The CGI is inferior, because I and many other could tell it was'nt real, if reality was their goal then it failed.
There's a big difference between a Sponge Bob Square pants show and a $140 million+ summer blockbuster movie...
The Drone images are not transforming, in the way it relates to the transformers motif: From a vehicle to a robot or vice versa. Sure there are subtle differences but one could not count on a viewer to go in with a fine tooth comb to find them as people do on these forums, advertising needs to get the point across clearly right? This does'nt fall into that category then.
Originally posted by RING0
I have not seen anyone state exactly what flags the drones as CGI, I agree that they are CGI, but can it be proven one way or the other?
I agree There's a big difference between a Sponge Bob Square pants show and a $140 million+ summer blockbuster movie but that is no evidence that they would not employ the viral ad methodology.
If the drones were shown to transform as you say, that would have ended the charade. So a more subtle approach was called for.
Originally posted by wildone106
If it IS a viral marketing, we can expect it to 'end' tomorrow then when Transformers hits?
Originally posted by wildone106
Like I said, there is absolutely nothing to tie these drones or objects in with the Transformers, not the designs, not the function. Having an approach so subtle that it eliminates any clue as to what its about is moronic, as it can point to anything..would they spend all their money on an ambiguous strategy that has no relation to the main product..peoples minds would wonder to other potential products/movies of the competition..thats a big failure.
The movie is due out tomorrow, the viral campaign will be at an end and they will come clean about..call me on it if that happens, but I'll cya back here on the 4th to claim my victory on this point!
And a well deserved victory it shall be,....
Also in your favor is the lack of any new drone photos being found right now, we should be hit with some sort of climax. Maybe that is what the CARET release was?
[edit on 2-7-2007 by RING0]
[edit on 2-7-2007 by RING0]
Originally posted by RING0
Originally posted by wildone106
Like I said, there is absolutely nothing to tie these drones or objects in with the Transformers, not the designs, not the function. Having an approach so subtle that it eliminates any clue as to what its about is moronic, as it can point to anything..would they spend all their money on an ambiguous strategy that has no relation to the main product..peoples minds would wonder to other potential products/movies of the competition..thats a big failure.
The movie is due out tomorrow, the viral campaign will be at an end and they will come clean about..call me on it if that happens, but I'll cya back here on the 4th to claim my victory on this point!
And a well deserved victory it shall be,....
[edit on 2-7-2007 by RING0]
Originally posted by srb2001
It has been remarked on another forum that the alien language design on the "Isaac" documents resembles, or may have been inspired by, Trek's Klingon alphabet or the Vegan construction schematics used in the movie "Contact".
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Originally posted by srsen
oh and wildone106, not being involved in CGI type stuff i found some of those pics quite amazing and now understand why people are so quick to claim cgi - coz you just CANNOT tell with some of them!
wish it was never invented - we cant even trust what we see anymore!