[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

Originally posted by Sys_Config
I can fold both of them and put them in my pocket, and sneak them in the house just like the caret ships. I have an entire fleet now you know. I really do.

I can helpyou in this case:
www.myweb3000.com...

But be sure, that you only use papers with the Isaac language on it! The results will be astounding!

And since this was the "new page - no see" post, I want to add, that I like the Kermit model (third row, second "craft") very much, but also that penguin beside it...

That was hilarious, and by the way I just added Torvald conclusion on Raj telephone pole picture.
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case closed for me. shadows or lack of same tell the tale. but not convince everybody. is ok. not necessary to convince everybody anyway. not my department. so not going to waste any more time on this.
summary: perspective problems, parallax problems, story problems, photo problems, composition errors, shadow problems, blah blah blah. oh well. was hoping would be real. would be fantastic yes?
must go to work. ciao!

Marv Has deftly dispensed the TY and Chad with similar if not identical conclusions
Of course only DRT thinks different but have not put any proof foward, in fact ,fell back on a position that the pictures had problems anyway. Now they want a rubberstamp of "inconclusive". Anything to keep the hope alive and hopefully increase their fanbase. Of course they knew that full well going into this of that little problem. They got what they demanded , an analysis, from different people, at OM, and they got more than they bargained for. Yes now Marvin, Sqt, Torvald, Radi can be added to our chorus of experts, Biedny, Marc Dantonio, Jeff, Wayne, Allisone 11 11 , Rwiggins, and the prior Lads like Moonking ..The list goes on, I have not forgotten how their efforts helped in all of this. Even SPF33 who agreed and then forgot he agreed.

I would like to say now as Paul Harvey, an American Commentator, used to say after his Motor Honey commercials, .."and thats the end of our story..."
But you all will have to wait on Linda and Whitley for that .

I just checked out the new rendering prgs. bought to our attention by Dr.Dil and Gafmad at drt. These new renders emulate light effects far better than radiosity and are free. I saw export plugins eve for max as well as others.
Below is an example of what they can do. The galleries at each link are simply stunning, with vivid all cgi outdoor scenes as well as indoor .

www.luxrender.net...
www.luxrender.net...
www.indigorenderer.com...

Now, Add another reason why the witness photo shooters did not come back, I would not either if I had to match up those drone pictures compared to what we had the capability of doing all along, only people did not look. Smart move. We can knock these shooters down a further notch in competence.












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Today at 6:47pm, 10538 wrote:
You don't have the angle of the drone even close to correct. Check the photo. There is no sunlight hitting the inside of the ring. For such a smart guy, how could you miss something so obvious? Or did you simply jump to a conclusion the drone must be level with the ground and perpendicular with the pole? You know what happens when you assume?

angle of drone correct. attitude of drone correct. drone mockup is simple tube. sunlight on inside is not problem. problem is great big shadow under big arm.

you obvious do no have the education or experience to properly evaluate photographs. so who is ass(ume)? you or me smart guy?

so. question is how YOU miss something so obvious smart guy?

Today at 7:02pm, tomi01uk wrote:
May I add to what numbers has pointed out..

You also do not seem to use a naturally saturated light environment in this study. Surely refracted daylight would negate a considerable amount of the strong shadow effect you indicate is missing.

you know nothing about tools used and did not even do basic perspective study before i come. this show you do not know what you are doing. i try to be nice to everybody but you and numbers are not qualified in any way to offer any substantive opinion you obfuscate and ignore plain facts. so. not get into argument with you or numbers about subject you know nothing about and are not qualified to respond.

ps to add. if you only knew how ridiculous your comment was you would be ashamed. "saturated light environment" ha ha ha! you are like child trying to pretend you know something when obvious you do not.

Check the email, I just sent you the same thing. hahahaha,They have no idea just how good this guy is, none whatsoever, Totally Clueless.
THey will close the droneboard as inconconclusive, I am sure, but that summary will stand, and so will Marvs and Radis. That that was good work.
I may call a special session for ARC recognition of excellence for Tovald,
Marvin and Radi. You know he sounded a little like allisone, at times. Don't get them riled up. But their skills are incredible. ATS has been blessed to have who we have had, I mean some real talent. Thats what these times demand, and its not for the timid.


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That's Inedible!

Now if I understand this correctly (I am no more qualified to evaluate CGI work than Numbers and Tomi put together) Numbers is basing his complaint about the model on the fact that there is no light shining on the inside of the ring in the "photo." But that light is missing for the same reason the shadow is missing on the outside, isn't it? Seems pretty obvious to me, but they are grasping at whatever shadow of a straw they can dream into existence.

Careful what you wish for!

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I dunno, man, I'd be pretty careful with that soldier girl. You know, "careful what you wish for!"

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I dunno, man, I'd be pretty careful with that soldier girl. You know, "careful what you wish for!"

Double You gave Penguin a new home hahahaha that is so kewl , He was like my guest speaker here. He loooooves anchovies . Yes those cgi were 2006, imagine now, and those tubes are recent and they are gorgeous. The soldier girl, I love women in uniform, take charge , you know, of my bills. The drones pale in compaison, if they were meant to look real. Even Isaac, said he never saw them. hahahaa, but he recognized the letters, so he must play Commander Keen too

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Another from Torvald.

Uh oh! Looks like hpo destroyed yet another drt fallacy - that of the damaged parts. They said that made it real, remember?

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Yeah, I felt sorry for the little bugger. He sure is a finicky eater. Keeps howling for squid. We're in the Rockies, silly bird! Looks like it's molting season, too. Next time, I think I'll get a parrot.

What's that racket? Oh, no, its....

www.youtube.com...

That's right, the DRT Pet Shop!

Followed almost immediately by,

www.youtube.com...

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welcome back RW ! Where ya been you rascal ,Thanx for that pic there Tovald knows what he is doing and frankly he finished , this is more or less diversion now for him and it was amusing. One by one they are losing their relics. Michigan, Oregon, Raj, , big Basin, and I could never figure why HPO would want to duplicate a broken part? But with chad and Ty, suffereing the same defects, half the fleet is gone, and literally the reason for DRTs existence. If they change it to something else they may fare better.

Did you see those rendering links underneath the vacuum tubes?
awsome

@double..he bites even when you feed him, but keep feedin him and he may start looking like you, then no one will call paternity into question

After being pressed by ES on the Investigation and search for witnesses, telephone pole, and now reporter.
Tomi issued a a recap and clarification or refinement as others might call it of her story and latest development in the PI search. To paraphrase as accurately as possible, Sys conducted a quantum interview. Those that want to confirm the following need only visit there.
So we bring you now an interview that is a wrapup of what went on.
We all know, that Tomi, is a graphics artist, ET philosopher, chemist, quantum and photon scattering specialist, EM optics physicist, Truck tire light wave analyst, and photographer, who has single handedly taken on Trovald and Marvin and a Legion of others.. (with stunning and amusing results I might add.) where she excels though, is in investigations and so we bring you an interview with:


Sys: Hi Tomi I hope there arent any bad feelings about the last series of questions concerning the PI's. After all, you left us with more questions and no answers, and frankly all speculation.
Considering the money and time so far, I hope you have something good to tell us.
Numbers recapped what you first told us.,,nothing

Tomi, you're bloody lucky I'm even talking to you any of you. But being the fair and honest person I am universally acclaimed of being, I will grant you an audience.

Sys: Thank you Tomi we are all on pins and needles here, like anticipation for the first time. share with us whats transpired.

Tomi:The only thing I can add to numbers recount of the situation with the reporter at the Sentinel is that I never
received the name of the reporter.

Sys: did you say never?

Tomi : yes NEVER you twit, and don't interrupt me!

Sys: Ok go on...

Tomi: I was told by the editor at the paper I was in contact with
about this reporter but I couldn't get her to give me her name.
The editor kept telling me she would pass our information onto her.

Sys: Thats terrible

Tomi:Also, I never got firm confirmation that there was a package
of photos and a letter received by snailmail at the paper at the time
of this sighting written by anyone associated with Raj or Raj himself.

Sys:did you say NEVER?

Tomi: Can't you understand English? yes NEVER, nunca, like nothing never, nada, pfft...
I asked the editor about this as well as a more senior editor at the paper.
The editor who told me about the reporter told me she "thinks" or
"seems to remember" something coming through like that. But she couldn't be sure. Then she assured me that all material received like that would have been thrown out if it wasn't going to be used. She then told me about the beat reporter from the paper who did a story about this drone sighting and IF the letter and pictures were received, she would surely know or still have them. That is the reason for so much attention being paid to speak to this reporter.

Sys: Thats a Big IF..but.."something.".."seems to remember". "in the trash" "coulnt be sure" .that sounds very very vague Tomi and sounds like you knew the beat reporte then.

Tomi: I never said that !

Sys: yes you did..you just said iT!

Tomi: Look up at the ceiling!
Sys: I dont see anything

Tomi: look down at the floor!
Sys: I still don't see anything, what am I supposed to be looking for?

Tomi: Thats the trouble with you and all these ATS chaps, None of you are getting the "Big Picture"!!

Sys: Well what would that be Tomi, weve been waiting a year and month now. and...Mexicans can do an entire mural in a week!

Tomi: Do you want me to get up and walk and leave all your researching
fat bottoms at your Armchairs?
I have a good mind to do that you know!

Sys: ok ok. you win..you win.. what happened then?

Tomi: As a follow up, about three weeks ago,
I called this female editor once more at the paper.
I wanted to explore with her any possibilities why the

Sys: hmm..explore possibilities..

Tomi: shhh! let me finish..why the female reporter would have resisted speaking to our PI.
She became very defensive with me.

Sys: it sounds like she was on the clock and busy with deadlines.Newsrooms generally are..
TOmi : If you interrupt me again..

Sys" ok:
Tomi: She denied ever telling me about her or verifying her name to me. In fact she initially tried to tell me the name we had was wrong for the reporter, but I pinned her down in a rather direct way and she finally
seemed to give up that this was indeed the reporter, but she kept insisting that she had nothing to do with us finding out about her.

Sys: Good for you Tomi, it must have been a herculean effort! but that "seemed to give up" is odd, did she or didnt she..

Tomi: I'm going to ignore that, Privacy you know, even though I'm violating personnel privacy tryin to be sneaky and get it.. but thank you, thats nice of you to say that, you yanks may have Roswell but we have Sherlock Holmes!

Sys: Agreed, indeed you do..what then Tomi?

Tomi: All very strange, which left me with the idea that
our reporter was very upset that
she was brought into this investigation

Sys : left you with an idea hmm..but how is that if you haven't even found her, or knows who gave you her name? and Honestly, if you did wouldn't you be?, someone giving your name out like that? Its against the law here..Is that so unusual?

Tomi: (glaring at sys) You simpletons are really annoying and
missing the "atmosphere" I am trying to "paint" and convey here!
One of drama and intrigue or the story won't last 10 seconds! You just don't get it!

Sys: I see..

Tomi she may have made that very clear to the people at the
paper who let the PI know what her name was.

Sys: I thought you just said they gave that to you . How did the PIs get it?
Tomi: are you callin me a Liar?!

Sys: No I'm just saying

Tomi: Shutup!

Sys: okay okay..mums the word..

Tomi: If that is not the core reason for such silence and retraction,
I won't speculate any reason why..

Sys: but but you just did on the whole thing its added nothing, except evryone was female, what kind of Investiga..

Tomi: Shut up you buffoon, This interview is over I gave you too much secret info already !! Fini!

Sys: Hold on..why are you Squriming so hard Tomi, all I did was..

Tomi: I said Over! Good Day and Good BYe!

And that concludes our interview with the Fancy Detective..











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hahahaha
great interview Sys,
but is that a notebook in the hands of the Fancy Detective in that pic?
We all know Tomi doesn't take notes!

Thanks, Sys. I don't envy you that job. I wonder if the Fancy Detective has started taking notes? Between the newspaper that does not keep notes and the Fancy Investigator who does not need to write anything down as she goes, we really don't have much in the way of documentation. So even if there was a story there with the newspaper, we will never know it. Taking notes and saving them is not very sexy, but it sure does work. Even a simple phone log can save time and legal fees for a professional. Low tech and reliable, just like indoor plumbing. Shoot, you could even say that one of those standard issue spiral bound phone logs full of handwritten notes has character.

Hi Zen Hi Doubles!!
It came with the sunglasses and Trench coat for that Realistic PI look:
Realistic is the operative key word in this mystery..
Yeah I read her latest recap today..and kept scratching my head..
She added absolutely nothing!

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I really began to feel for poor Torvald, running headlong into Explainaway Technology, or Physics du jour, every time he tried to make a point. It was painful watching the D Team drag out all that claptrap for one more acid trip. It's just getting embarrassing.

Thats when they displayed their ignorance of the subject and he smacked it down good. They try to hijack and derail, but its to no avail , that pic is busted and there is a feeding frenzy on. The OM team sees this and to their credit opened a thread where the findings can be posted without such obvious hysterics and straw grasping.

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Yeah, for all the credibility problems that place has had, I have to say that Jake and Admin (Bren?) have been doing a good job of enforcing the rules fairly in the past several days. To me, it seems childish and just plain crazy to still be arguing about whether the drones are anything but fake. They have been smashed into subatomic particles and are still being taken apart. But OM has decided for whatever reason that there is some sense in keeping a middle ground, and at least they are doing that pretty well. The decision seems to be based on the idea that drone reality is somehow a matter of opinion. How can that be? Either the moon is made of green cheese, or it is not.

This guy could have taken the best pic from each batch including the LAP scan, and run it thru his program that does light and shadows.
ES wrote him and and it was expensive, about 20 hours at 200 dollars an hour. But compare that to whats been spent, on PIs, websites, bad feelings, and all our time too.
If DRT had been serious that would have been the first thing done.
Instead they rejected every expert tooth and nail.
I have some of his work in the library here.
He is also the developer of this light analysis prg.
www.technologyreview.com...
hanyfarid.org...
www.cs.dartmouth.edu... and Lab head who is internationally known. At least in the area of photo forensics.
Again, it does scanned pix too.
Enigma a poster at another forum had written also, and the same professor recalls the photos in question and said they looked fake to him, but he would take analysis to make it official, or otherwise. So Farid, in essence, is saying, don't throw away your money.


@ Sidd Your email box may be full its kicking back mail I send.


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