New Video: september clues exposes 911 TV Fakery, page 6

piacenza

It makes a difference. A huge difference, not only the quality, but the way these videos are *CROPPED* and *EDITED*. Trust me, it makes a difference to what your seeing.

You talk about the fuselage, just earlier but have you see what
mister.old.school posted??





Now, that looks a bit different. It to me looks like the ENGINE. That is what compression can do. It can change the shape of the thing your looking at.

The engine flying out is consistent with what happened at the Empire State Building years ago when a plane penetrated it and the engine flew out the other side and that was a smaller b-25 moving at only 200 mph.

[edit on 7-6-2007 by talisman]

The Empire State building....

history1900s.about.com...

One of the engines and part of the landing gear hurtled across the 79th floor, through wall partitions and two fire walls, and out the south wall's windows to fall onto a twelve-story building across 33rd Street. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and landed on an elevator car. The car began to plummet, slowed somewhat by emergency safety devices. Miraculously, when help arrived at the remains of the elevator car in the basement, the two women inside the car were still alive.

Then engine went through the Empire State Building *FRONT AND BACK*.

I'm not a big fan of the no planes theory either, though 3D hologram technology is currently being developed to handle such an event.

2. High Resolution 3D Sensing and Modeling
The dimension software is capable of interfacing 3D sensors and displaying the acquired data in real-time in the shared 3D environment.

Controllers at a busy metropolitan airport are monitoring air traffic by tracking the positions of miniature airplanes flying around inside a scaled down real three dimensional model of their air space. The display shows real 3-D airplanes as they are picked up by radar, and displays aircraft take-offs, landings, and holding patterns. Early warning of dangerous conditions are visually highlighted by flashing any planes that are approaching too closely. Air traffic control safety is greatly enhanced by the controller's use of real 3-D airspace simulators.

As much money as the American Military Complex has sunk into it each year, I'm sure this technology could have been mastered by the mid 90's if they wanted to. And they wanted to.

Originally posted by tombangelta
Does seem very strange that it would still be intact. From the video it does appear to be behind the explosion.
[edit on 063030p://05066 by tombangelta]

What I find strange is that there was no nosecone found on the streets. How is this disproven? "Doctored footage", "Illusion"?

piacenza

Take a deep breath, relax. One more.

It isn't something to get upset over. You have to use logic. Your relying an awful lot on your eyes. Sometimes our eyes see what is correct. Sometimes they see what is WRONG.

Let me give you a quick example.

Be patient for a moment.

Do you see this picture? LOOK AT SQUARE A and then B





Square *A* and Square *B* are the exact same color! They look totally different. But trust me, they are the same exact color. It is the surrounding area that is confusing the eyes.


Okay, now let us look at the 'Engine' or whatever you want to call it. I noticed in the gif posted earlier, that the *SHAPE* changed. In the framed sequence of the gif.

In one of the frames it looked very much like the engine. The end shape. Keep in mind I posted that a plane engine has done this very thing before, when the Empire State Building was struck.

So it is consistent from that point of view.

We have to be honest. It is very unlikely 2 different CGI experts made the same mistake at exactly the same point.

So, if you don't want to accept the Engine. That is fine. But before jumping to CGI, your better off assuming that this plane was no ordinary plane, it could have been a miltary jet of very strong material.

Now, I am not saying it is that. But I am just saying that this is consistent. Regarding what your talking about with the zoom. This is highly compressed stuff. With this type of stuff we get artifacts.

That is why I am asking for good quality pictures and films so we all can make more informed decisions. Don't you agree? Isn't it in our best interest to have Good Quality Images?



[edit on 7-6-2007 by talisman]

Originally posted by piacenza
Now I will try to post as calm as I can.

That would be nice. I believe that this is an important topic (9/11 conspiracy theories) and it behooves us to give it the calm and rational critical analysis it deserves.

Now. We're jumping around a great deal in this thread. I'd like to ask the purveyors of these "CGI" or "no plane" or "TV Fakery" theories to look back a few pages and address some important questions that appear to have been overlooked in a rush to add new material to the discussion.

For reference, here's a summary.

I'm looking for that nose section in this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

A member looking to see if the 911researchers.com group (of which bsregistration and Nico "Conspiracy Faker" Haupt are port) have engaged any professionals as part of their research:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There are issues with the coloring assumptions within the videos you're analyzing:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here, I'm looking for input as to why the artifact that appears to be the "nose section" is not simply ejected dust/debris from the high-pressue explosion happening in the building:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here, a member is asking for your feedback on the possibility of two different (government sponsored?) CGI artists making the same exact mistake:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This member still seems dissatisfied with the explanations from your group regarding the multitude of people who saw passenger aircraft strike the towers:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm still waiting for a response to this post, that presents an explanation for the "reflection on the van(?)":
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I and others have asked, several times, for the source imagery used to make this composite:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

No response to a summary:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Which is fake, and which is real:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

An examination of the eject artifact seems to indicate a smoke plume, not a nose section. We still have no response here as well:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I believe those represent some of the major questions presented in the first five pages of this thread that are as yet unanswered by anyone representing the primary source of "TV Fakery" and "No Planes" theories, 911researchers.com. I think if we can receive the benefit of answers to these logical questions, we'll all be much better off in understanding the basis upon which these theories have been birthed.

In the interest of a fraternal endeavor to discover the truth, I urge you to help us by answering these questions.

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