I think the 'nose out' is just a smoke/debris plume. One can see similarly shaped, straight-edged smoke plumes due to detonating explosives spurting out of windows in some videos that show the South Tower collapsing. It is obviously the wrong shape for the nose of any type of Boeing plane. It is not solid because it does not drop to the ground as it slows down. No. This was an expulsion of dense gas, dust and smoke being squeezed like toothpaste through windows in the north face of the South Tower. That's why there was no large exit hole!

This image is easy to explain. It is certainly NOT evidence for video fakery.

That window its pretty big. Do you realize how big that oject is? its 1/4 of the plane.

me again ok i have a question lets say that 9/11 was framed. i want to know why the US government would attack its own building like the pentagon. can some one plz answer me that

The best piece of evidence that this video offers, in my opinion, is the appearance and disappearance of the plane. When the video is rewound the plane just vanishes and we should still be able to see it approaching but it isn't there.

Another thing about the nose out, the color and shape remain the same which should not be the case in real life. It appears as if the plane continued to fly past the tower, there is no change before it enters and after it exits. The nose out in the other photo does not match the nose out in the video so I think they are two separate events. Review the tape and ignore the explosion, I'm sure if you cut the nose out shot and compare it with the plane before it enters the building it will be identical.

You can't believe the nose was 100% undamaged after crashing through a steel building and also believe the official story that the plane totally disintegrated. This evidence definitely deserves to be thoroughly analyzed and I would like to see the debunker's analyze the video instead of posting pictures of other events or just leaving unhelpful comments without even watching the video first. I will try to debunk this myself this weekend.

Lets just pretend for a 1 minute that we live in a world where we all agree that there was no plane. It would imply the involvement of a hell of a lot of people, including news anchors, the people on the actual flights, thousands of people would be needed to pull this off. If that were the case how the hell did they manage to do it so well? The only way I see people going along with the plan and keeping quiet is if they were part of some cult/society and were heavily brainwashed into following orders without question. It's frightening if you think about but I am not saying it is true just what if.

I have yet to see a video where we can say with 100% certainty that the object in question IS the nose. We know that an engine was found in the streets below, it could have been that shrouded in dust and other debris. There's no way to say with absolute certainty what it is though.

IgnoranceIsntBlisss,
are you asking this because we both have a question about the abnormal long casted shadow of the "object" (nose cone?) on the right side of the tower?
Especially since the shadows of the explosion clouds on the other side are very shallow or even absent.

Hmm! Sounds very intriguing!

Originally posted by LaBTop
IgnoranceIsntBlisss,
are you asking this because we both have a question about the abnormal long casted shadow of the "object" (nose cone?) on the right side of the tower?
Especially since the shadows of the explosion clouds on the other side are very shallow or even absent.

That's what really got my attention. Good mind

It almost made it seem somehow mirror flipped / faked. I wanna see the real 'raw' footage so I can grab the frame(s) and blow them up using special photo enlargement software before I even think much else on it...

Just watched part 2. I think someone needs a lesson in motion picture and photography.

and blow them up using special photo enlargement software

Looking forward to seeing it (if you can find the source!).

[edit on 7-6-2007 by mirageofdeceit]

Nose Cone!
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is both conspiracy believer and debunker shame!

Call me naive. In fact, this is (I think) my first post to the 9/11 Forum. There has been a lot of chit chat about this forum--and this thread--lately. Can someone explain in 500 words or less what the No Plane movement is all about? I presume that it's arguing that there were no planes on 9/11. I have three questions that I am hoping someone can answer so that I can get a better idea of what this is about.

If there were no planes, what about the people who saw planes?

If there were no planes, where did the people on the presumably vanished planes go?

What evidence is offered in support of this theory?

I appreciate anyone who can help me--and presumably others--get up to speed on this.

[edit on 6/7/2007 by Togetic]

Hi, I only read the heading of this thread because it was all that I needed to read.......and here is why.

About 15:15 hours on 9/11 I saw a video of this Japanes couple tourists took...... it shows the man with the twin towers as a background, the camara was pointing UP with the skyline in the background.

It shows a plane coming in and heating the tower (forgot which one), I only saw this film or video only one time, it ran for about seven seconds, and I NEVER seen anyone mention it.....why?

I don't believe that anyone could have had the time to fake this video.