New Video: september clues exposes 911 TV Fakery

I think the 'nose out' is just a smoke/debris plume. One can see similarly shaped, straight-edged smoke plumes due to detonating explosives spurting out of windows in some videos that show the South Tower collapsing. It is obviously the wrong shape for the nose of any type of Boeing plane. It is not solid because it does not drop to the ground as it slows down. No. This was an expulsion of dense gas, dust and smoke being squeezed like toothpaste through windows in the north face of the South Tower. That's why there was no large exit hole!

This image is easy to explain. It is certainly NOT evidence for video fakery.

That window its pretty big. Do you realize how big that oject is? its 1/4 of the plane.

Originally posted by piacenza
That window its pretty big. Do you realize how big that oject is? its 1/4 of the plane.

I have no idea how a window factors into this discussion.

However, could you please look at this post?
Thank you.

Originally posted by talisman

So can anyone tell me where this image came from? What newscast? What time? I can get the real quality clip if someone can tell me where it was.

That is interesting.

me again ok i have a question lets say that 9/11 was framed. i want to know why the US government would attack its own building like the pentagon. can some one plz answer me that

The best piece of evidence that this video offers, in my opinion, is the appearance and disappearance of the plane. When the video is rewound the plane just vanishes and we should still be able to see it approaching but it isn't there.

Another thing about the nose out, the color and shape remain the same which should not be the case in real life. It appears as if the plane continued to fly past the tower, there is no change before it enters and after it exits. The nose out in the other photo does not match the nose out in the video so I think they are two separate events. Review the tape and ignore the explosion, I'm sure if you cut the nose out shot and compare it with the plane before it enters the building it will be identical.

You can't believe the nose was 100% undamaged after crashing through a steel building and also believe the official story that the plane totally disintegrated. This evidence definitely deserves to be thoroughly analyzed and I would like to see the debunker's analyze the video instead of posting pictures of other events or just leaving unhelpful comments without even watching the video first. I will try to debunk this myself this weekend.

Lets just pretend for a 1 minute that we live in a world where we all agree that there was no plane. It would imply the involvement of a hell of a lot of people, including news anchors, the people on the actual flights, thousands of people would be needed to pull this off. If that were the case how the hell did they manage to do it so well? The only way I see people going along with the plan and keeping quiet is if they were part of some cult/society and were heavily brainwashed into following orders without question. It's frightening if you think about but I am not saying it is true just what if.

I have yet to see a video where we can say with 100% certainty that the object in question IS the nose. We know that an engine was found in the streets below, it could have been that shrouded in dust and other debris. There's no way to say with absolute certainty what it is though.

last one for today i think

part 2

IgnoranceIsntBlisss,
are you asking this because we both have a question about the abnormal long casted shadow of the "object" (nose cone?) on the right side of the tower?
Especially since the shadows of the explosion clouds on the other side are very shallow or even absent.

Hmm! Sounds very intriguing!

Originally posted by LaBTop
IgnoranceIsntBlisss,
are you asking this because we both have a question about the abnormal long casted shadow of the "object" (nose cone?) on the right side of the tower?
Especially since the shadows of the explosion clouds on the other side are very shallow or even absent.

That's what really got my attention. Good mind

It almost made it seem somehow mirror flipped / faked. I wanna see the real 'raw' footage so I can grab the frame(s) and blow them up using special photo enlargement software before I even think much else on it...

Just watched part 2. I think someone needs a lesson in motion picture and photography.

and blow them up using special photo enlargement software

Looking forward to seeing it (if you can find the source!).

[edit on 7-6-2007 by mirageofdeceit]

Now that I've seen those videos I must say he's pointed out a few things that I can't yet explain. I'm going to wait until I get time to review the real quality imagery. At work now. Really have better things to work on this month but I might have to take a gander at this.

In case there's really something there I'd like to throw in a third dichotomy:
TV "Fakery" -that is there were actual edits involved in certain clips- doesn't actually mean that the planes weren't actually used.

I put up some important questions about this no plane theory that, unless resolved, make the concept of no planes virtually impossible.
Questions for TV "Fakery"

But if there were edits / signal interuptions somewhere this could prove that someone was trying to make it look like the impact(s) were faked. This may seem retarded at first, until you consider the idea that most everything about 9/11 was designed to make it totally impossible to reach solid conclusions and endless debates for total ongoing decades long diversion. Even if it can be "proven" that there was some 'fakery', most people would never accept that, and it can be 'provven' that the planes did hit. Assuming there are indeed edits, this falls right into my trap:
Insanely Incredible (Diversionary) Issues as Proof of a 9/11 Conspiracy




[edit on 7-6-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Nose Cone!
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is both conspiracy believer and debunker shame!

www.prisonplanet.com...

That is interesting.

The first plane north tower video evidence is poor and would have to
take witness reports if the sound and video are true.

The south tower might be the same except for I recall students in a
van taking pictures. They were escorted out of the country.

I don't know if they have plane pictures or just the explosions.


The unquestioning attitude of the NY State government, Mayors and
Governors, etc. non involvement of what happened is a mystery and
must have all taken the laywer attitude of making whole by insurance
money.

Make it whole by getting the truth.

ed: aside Freemasons, interesting id, I was thinking Free the Masons from
all the bad internet copy.
Best


[edit on 6/7/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

Well, you can find a lot of real 9/11 TV news coverage, since shortly, here :
www.archive.org...

This is an older link,
911blogger.com...
with a lot of bickering about Archive.org "pulling" these videos.
It turned out, their servers were not build to that intense traffic, so they took some time off, to stream all these videos and put them back on.
The poster reposted the working links halfway down again, btw.

Can we "rip" in any way these streaming videos?
So we can post pieces of them here, or at other forums.

Originally posted by LaBTop
Well, you can find a lot of real 9/11 TV news coverage, since shortly, here :
www.archive.org...
Can we "rip" in any way these streaming videos?
So we can post pieces of them here, or at other forums.

I have over 50 of them. Haven't even seen them all yet. It was a mad grab to get them before they took them down. My torrent should still be active, and there are some others by Xenomorph and my friend jkeogh.
conspiracycentral.net:6969...

It'll take you eons to get them all. Less than 70 people have all the ones I do from what I can tell. Somewhere out there people have other pieces but they've failed to offer them up for the public good.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
www.prisonplanet.com...

That is interesting.

Does anyone know what article they posted that in?

Call me naive. In fact, this is (I think) my first post to the 9/11 Forum. There has been a lot of chit chat about this forum--and this thread--lately. Can someone explain in 500 words or less what the No Plane movement is all about? I presume that it's arguing that there were no planes on 9/11. I have three questions that I am hoping someone can answer so that I can get a better idea of what this is about.

If there were no planes, what about the people who saw planes?

If there were no planes, where did the people on the presumably vanished planes go?

What evidence is offered in support of this theory?

I appreciate anyone who can help me--and presumably others--get up to speed on this.

[edit on 6/7/2007 by Togetic]

Hi, I only read the heading of this thread because it was all that I needed to read.......and here is why.

About 15:15 hours on 9/11 I saw a video of this Japanes couple tourists took...... it shows the man with the twin towers as a background, the camara was pointing UP with the skyline in the background.

It shows a plane coming in and heating the tower (forgot which one), I only saw this film or video only one time, it ran for about seven seconds, and I NEVER seen anyone mention it.....why?

I don't believe that anyone could have had the time to fake this video.