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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:09 AM by piacenza
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Ok its not the same object it an engine of the plane its a column its air...
Now this remind me of a thread on why the US deserved 911. Now I am not so sure that the US society actually deserved it. It is obvious that it did
not do any good to ppl like you. You could have taken the worst thing that ever happened in human history and turn it to the most positive one. I
really hope you have an agenda otherwise I would not be able to described what I think about you without being banned. If you have an agenda I applaud
you and you have my respects ,if not...
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:13 AM by PartChimp
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*scratches head* What? I just answered your question in a yes or no manner. I was hoping you would do the same for mine.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:17 AM by piacenza
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First time ever and I hope my last I will click on the ignore button.
Bye bye chimp.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:20 AM by PartChimp
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Well, his failure to answer the question is ample proof that i don't think dear piacenza knows what to believe. Further proof that there are enough
holes in this theory to bring it down for the sham that it is.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:23 AM by talisman
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piacenza
Chimp is asking a very vaild question here. I don't agree with everything he says, but it is a very valid question. Do you honestly think 2 different
CGI people made the same exact mistake from different viewing angles??
Also, at this point wouldn't it be more logical to assume the plane was a military JET made to look civilian as in "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" style.
I don't believe this, but it is far more likely.
Now in regards to 9/11.
How do you know it took place at all? Using your logic.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:23 AM by coughymachine
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piacenza...
The real explosion around the 'fake' nose cone - how did it get there?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:25 AM by piacenza
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Once we can agree that the object in question is the same I will answer your questions.
Is the object the same yes or no?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:35 AM by piacenza
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Ps: about the explosions.
You probabbly missed a few thread of mines in which you can see intermittent flashes going on and off on point of impact. The famous flash it is
actually a bomb. On the impact of the second plane there is another VERY clear Explosion going off in the other Building. Right at impact. So
explosions yes they are totally real.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:38 AM by apex
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Originally posted by piacenza
Once we can agree that the object in question is the same I will answer your questions.
Is the object the same yes or no?
Well yes, it's the same piece of ejected material form the WC tower, not the nosecone, as that would make no sense, if it's in more than one picture
I think we can agree it's not a CGI error. And of course, it only seems to be in one frame of the original footage which was then blacked out? if
it was an animation error, wouldn't it be in the next .28 seconds of film? Well, if it is, you have proof that at least one thing was faked. If it
isn't, it is entirely down to pixelation and coincidental shaping of dust and explosion.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:44 AM by coughymachine
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Originally posted by piacenza On the impact of the second plane there is another VERY clear Explosion going off in the other Building.
Right at impact. So explosions yes they are totally real.
So can I summarise your view thus:
No plane crashed into WTC2. Explosives were pre-planted. They were detonated to coincide with faked 'live' TV images of a 'plane' approcahing
and impacting the building. The real explosion on the face opposite to that of impact lined up perfectly with the protruding 'fake' nose cone such
that the origin of the explosion can be seen to appear from the root of the nose cone.
Is this an accurate assessment of your position?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:48 AM by bsregistration
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Youre in luck! September Clues: Part
two is here! In Part Two Social Service explores more of the fake videos that were used to launch the War on Terror and the Invasion of Iraq.
At its very core September 11 was not about airplanes or exploding buildings, it was about using the Mass Media to convince the world of a Big Lie.
Originally posted by LoDGiKaL
I've never seen anything in the whole 'No-planes' theory. I always
thought it was the theory of the worst wackjobs hanging around the internet. You know, people who can not come up with a decent argument, so they come
up with the most unbilievable stories, whic cannot be disproven, so they can discuss mathers for eternity.
Have to say this video is the first of many which I do give some credit to.
But still, Although the chances are small, it can still be all coincidental.
I need more proof for this theory. When is part 2 showing it's ugly mug?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:49 AM by PatriotOne
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BSRegistration..............
That is really fascinating! I haven't paid much attention to the no plane theory before but had never discounted it either. I must say I am
interested now though.
Just a comment in case the maker of this film is monitoring this thread:
I found that some of the comments that was added to the video flashed on and off the screen too fast. I could barely read them that fast and had to
keep going back to read and digest to see what I was suppose to be looking for in the subsequent shot. I suggest you let some of the more complicated
comments linger a bit longer.
It might not be apparent that you are going to fast because you are so familiar with your assertations, but for a newbi to the "no plane" theory, I
found the comments too fast to read and digest.
Just a suggestion, as some may not take the time to keep going back to re-read what was being said and not understand your point.
I'm looking forward to part 2 !
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:51 AM by mister.old.school
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Originally posted by piacenza
Could you please help me understand the provenance of this image?
I'd like to see the two sources used to create this composite.
Thank you.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:52 AM by piacenza
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Coughy Machine please examine well this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
Yes explosive were preplanted of that I am sure 100%. Now check the explosion on the other tower... I will find the video with the flashes its very
very interesting.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:53 AM by piacenza
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Originally posted by mister.old.school
Originally posted by piacenza
Could you please help me understand the provenance of this image?
I'd like to see the two sources used to create this composite.
Thank you.
Would you agree that if those pics are real this is the same object?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:55 AM by coughymachine
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Originally posted by piacenzaI will find the video with the flashes its very very interesting.
Be aware that I view pretty much everything that's posted here and elsewhere, whether I agree with it at first or not. I don't need to review
anything here in order to establish what I'm trying to establish.
Is it your view that the explosion that appears on the opposite side to that of the impact originates precisely around the root of a faked CGI nose
cone?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:57 AM by mister.old.school
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Originally posted by piacenza
Would you agree that if those pics are real this is the same object?
As presented, I'm unable to determine what is represented in this image, and if it is "real" or not. If we can see and compare the source imagery
used to create the composite, it would help a great deal. Otherwise, it does nothing for the debate.
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 11:59 AM by piacenza
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I am asking you to concentrate first on the explosion on the other tower while the 2nd plane hits. On the top right of the other tower the once
already attacked. This is very important because it shows that explosives were preplanted exactly where the so called plane should have hit. Glad you
already read the post about the Flashes, so what do you think about it?
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 12:02 PM by danx
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Part 2 is here?
I guess you haven't (all) realized that all 4 parts have been already posted. And looks like they were posted at the same time...
Link
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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 12:05 PM by coughymachine
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Originally posted by piacenza
I am asking you to concentrate first on the explosion on the other tower while the 2nd plane hits. On the top right of the other tower the once
already attacked. This is very important because it shows that explosives were preplanted exactly where the so called plane should have hit. Glad you
already read the post about the Flashes, so what do you think about it?
I know what you're referring to apparently in an effort to trying to avoid addressing the question. I'll answer you first so that we can move on to
you answering me.
Yes I saw the flashes. I thought they were interesting. I even contributed to the thread by posting a video from one of your earlier threads showing
the impact from a different angle which also included some curious flashes.
Now my turn.
In the above image, you can see what you believe is a CGI 'nose out' having an effect upon the shape of the explosion. In fact, if you go back to
the footage, you can see the explosion begin precisely at the point this allegedly fake nose cone emerges from the building. This interplay between
fake and real is unreasonable. Either they are both fake or they are both real.
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