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Originally posted by chief_counsellor
Originally posted by corsig
Let's keep civil and take the high ground. I sense Henry is getting the wrong idea of our little SS group here and want him to feel welcomed.
Cory
Why do you keep calling me Henry??? My name is John, lol.
Originally posted by chief_counsellor
Hon. Edward Dormer Assembly is the 4th degree K of C assembly I belong to....I can see where the mix up is now. LOL
Originally posted by corsig
Originally posted by chief_counsellor
Hon. Edward Dormer Assembly is the 4th degree K of C assembly I belong to....I can see where the mix up is now. LOL
Can I still call you Henry?
It could be our special nickname
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by corsig
Yeah I didn't know that- I spent an hour or so on Google/Yahoo trying to find something at all and nothing was there.
Very interesting that it's that hard to come by. What do you make of that??
Here is the Knights of Columbus First Degree
Knights of Columbus Second Degree
Knights of Columbus Third Degree
[edit on 19-3-2007 by Masonic Light]
Originally posted by Zhenyghi
Fr. McGivney was not a Mason, but a member of the Ancient Order of Hibernians. Its been said that any Masonic resemblence came via that order, not the Masons directly.
...fraternal organization devoted to Charity Unity Fraternity...
...Thus, the Knights of Columbus formed a critical part of the community in providing for Brother Knights families if they perished...
...The Knights are an organization that is devoted to all that is good in this world and furthering those causes...
...Our rituals are secret to protect the workings of our order but the things we accomplish are highly visible for their genuine charity...
...The Knights of Columbus are a whole-hearted and loving organization of (Catholic) males devoted to good works...
Originally posted by KnightofColumbus
You guys are seriously ignorant. Refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about.
Originally posted by KnightofColumbus
You guys are seriously ignorant.
Originally posted by Zhenyghi
I can't directly comment on the ceremonials from 1968, but my father received his 1st-3rd in 1969 (?), and gave me the run-down after I received mine, and the rituals described are nowhere near like they were back in the day. They more closely resemble the current ritual, but, as I mentioned above, they are incomplete.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Of course, I've never seen a KoFC ritual that would be considered offensive by non-Catholics. Some conspiracy theorists use bogus KofC oaths, talking about ripping open the stomachs of pregnant Protestant women, etc. As you know, that's all nonsense, and I'm sure that the material posted is at least much closer to the real thing.
Originally posted by shantyman
I mean absolutely no offense to the Masons here, but the as the RCC church frowns on Freemasonry, and the tenets of being a Knight forbids candidates who are Freemasons, I have to ask - did those gentlemen who claim to be Knights and Masons lie in order to join the KofC?
I have several Catholic friends who are Masons; I have a number of Mason friends. Personally, I have nothing against Masons - the Lodge activities I have seen are not only benign but often of service to their communities. As a practicing Roman CAtholic, I am bound by the Holy See. Declaration on Masonic Associations
Once again - please don't take this as an anti-Masonic rant. But if you are a practical Catholic gentleman who has joined the Knights while a Mason, you are in violation of the precepts of the KofC and the RCC.
Originally posted by shantyman
I mean absolutely no offense to the Masons here, but the as the RCC church frowns on Freemasonry, and the tenets of being a Knight forbids candidates who are Freemasons, I have to ask - did those gentlemen who claim to be Knights and Masons lie in order to join the KofC?