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Originally posted by mecheng
Here's my universal-catch-all-standardized-debunking-statement...
"How do you know it's not a government project"?
That's the problem. We don't know what the government is capable of or what they are working on. We don't know for a fact that they haven't produced some anti-gravity propulsion system. And therefore, until little green men show up on the white house front lawn (or the governement tells us UFOs are real), we can never "prove" that the pictures and video are truely UFO's because there's always a chance they could just be some secret governement project.
Originally posted by Royal76
I can see your point, but they are out there.
You have to at least be open to the possibility. That's all any one can ask.
Until there is proof either way there is no Black or White answer.
Sometimes a strong and seemingly indisputable case arises such as the recent O’Hare sighting, but most are obvious hoaxes.
“What does it mean for a civilization to be a million years old? We have had radio telescopes and spaceships for a few decades; our technical civilization is a few hundred years old... an advanced civilization millions of years old is as much beyond us as we are beyond a bush baby or a macaque.”
Originally posted by Txhunter67
Mooney: Your points are very well thought out and reasonable.
Originally posted by MooneyBravo
"This is mostly due to the fact that every alleged UFO video or picture can be systematically debunked over time, if not immediately"
Originally posted by AceWombat04
I have interpreted the original poster's statement as meaning that it is his or her belief, as opposed to conclusive reality, that extraterrestrial intelligence is not and has not been responsible for documented UFO phenomena to date. I have not interpreted the original poster's statement as an attempt to debunk anything, as he or she has not asserted that this is a conclusive reality, but rather his or her personal belief based on the available information. Furthermore, he or she has not attempted to change anyone else's mind or force his or her belief on others. On the contrary, he or she appears to be attempting to include expressions of admiration, respect, and tolerance with regard to views different from his or her own, in his or her statement.
We should not be so fast to vilify those who respectfully, articulately, and politely express views different from our own, particularly when no concerted effort is being made to foist those views on us or change our minds. I personally believe it is more than possible that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin, however when we bristle at the pronouncement of contrary beliefs, we become as close minded as some believe those unwilling to accept the possibility that our view is correct are.
Edited for clarity.
[edit on 16-2-2007 by AceWombat04]
Originally posted by disownedsky
You may well be right.
Maybe we need an ongoing thread r.e. the Fermi paradox: they should be here, but compelling scientific evidence eludes. Why?
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
I like these kinds of threads.
My basic question to your very bold and unforgiving affirmation of your beliefs is simple. Can you (in good faith) discount every claim by every person throughout history (including those claims made before aircraft riddled our skies) as explainable events that could not even POSSIBLY be extraterrestrial in origin?