Mr pilotshinjiikaru is a known Troll on the internet and goes by the names USAalltheway USimperialaist, he pretends to be Chinese and post slander
everywhere at the same time being modest, to find more of his post go to sinodefenceforum.com
Before you post anymore slander about being "brainwashed" and such, please note this
I am an Australian of Chinese decent, I speak Seven Languages including Four Chinese dialects, I read most local and international newspapers and i
have family in all corners of the globe. Your use of calling Chinese Brainwashed is your form of denigrating .Your notion of a stereotypical Chinese
is completely ridiculous and this nationalism you seem to indicate Chinese posters display is completely baseless, mind you, your making these
accusations without evidence.
Your use of Chinese posters pretending that china and America are somehow equal perplexes me since no one i ever met has said that China even wants to
rival America because the Americans are digging themselves to the ground with their military budget. China has no need of a strategic reach and no one
has made china out to be a country with the capability the Americans have
The Chinese military have no long range strategic reach besides its latest Dong Fong missiles that can finally hit all of the continental
US(which it only has few of)
Why would china need long range "strategic reach"?
But to address your issue of MAD or "finally" having the capability to hit America, here is a previous post
30 DF-5A missiles
Range - 12,000km-14,000km
It was formerly hidden inside caves inside the PRC but now are located inside one the of three PLA Ballistic missile complexs. Some are silo based and
some are stored inside the tunnels ready to be launched, preparation time is around two hours for the older DF-5 missiles but the newer DF-5A might be
shortened by the use of a new booaster fuel which might have also increase reliabilty. It has also been seen on mible platforms after being spilt into
its seperate stages which might have been abandoned since the purpose built mobile DF-31 enter service
Range - 8,000km~10,000km (depending on version)
The DF-31 was first seen in 1999 at the parade marking the 50th anniversary of the PRC. Since then there have been a number of these systems entering
service, the numbers range from 15-30 systems and considering their production rate, there might be more to come. Extremely mobile and extremely if
impossible to detect. These will form the backbone of chinas nuclear force and be include the longer ranged DF-31A version in its current arsenal
Range - 8,000
The Submarine version of the DF-31, these are supposed to be based on the New Type-094 SSBN which have been rumoured to have entered service already.
There have been claimed pictures of it, some of which are extremely clear but nothing is for certain. They might also be placed on the modifed
Type-092 SSBN after its lastest update
To destroy chinas first ICBM complex, you would need a total of roughly 300 warheads to damage chinas first ICBM tunnel complex since it is hidden by
a mountain as well as its length. There are at least 30,000 miles of underground silo bases, under three mountain ranges in china for the DF-5 and
DF-5. This gives chinese forces enough time to re-fuel and lanuch
Mobile missiles are another story and are virtually impossible to destroy. A example of this was the iraqi SCUD lanuchers. The Americans had complete
air superioty and special forces in iraq as well as drones and spy satellites yet they found it impossible to locate and destory iraqi SCUD
Now imagine the worlds third biggest country with one of the worlds most diverse landscapes full of mountains and man-made tunnels. Try finding a ICBM
lanucher in the interior of china espically tibet and Chengdu with all those moutains. China does have enough missiles to do justice in a nuclear
exchange with America whilst America will do more than enough justice to china. But America also has the Russians to worry about and wont use all its
nuclear weapons on china. Chinas nuclear force is enough to make a deterrant against the Americans and thus cause a parity between the two
Like other known mountain ranges housing underground tunnel networks for China's strategic missiles, the Tai-Hei Mountain Range has many steep
cliffs and canyons with large big elevation changes over a short distance between 1,000 and 2,000 meters. So yo u can easily dig tunnel networks with
over one kilometer thick earth-cover in mountain ranges.
A typical 500-kiloton nuclear warhead in U.S. or Russian arsenals can `dig' a big hole 70m deep and 300m wide on the ground, and that is more than
enough to destroy a missile silo or even an airport. If specially hardened for the earth-penetration purpos e, it may create a huge crater sphere 200
meters in diameter underground. Taken into account of the rupture zone around the crater and the likely penetration depth of warheads, at least three
500-kiloton warheads will have to land on the same spot sequen tially in order to penetrate the 1-kilometer thick earth cover and destroy the tunnel
underneath. Even with the monster 20-megeton warhead on Russia's single-warhead SS-18, at least two warheads have to land on the same spot.
Moreover, one would destroy less than 300 meters of a tunnel using three warheads. Assuming the underground tunnel network under the Tai-Hei Mountain
Range is only 1,000 kilometer long, one would need to use 10,000 (ten thousand) 500-kiloton warheads in order to make sure the tunnel network is
completely destroyed. This is the VERY unlikely case in which you know the exact layout of the entire tunnel network. AND this is just one of several
missile sites in China.
In conclusion, china has the capability to make the America or anyone elses use of nuclear weapons un-pleasant if they choose to bomb china. Much has
been made on the state of chinas ICBM force of "twenty ageing silo based missiles" without much concern for the deployment of other missiles in the
service. Quote and re-quoting FAS has been done and dusted and new accurate figures should be composed.
[edit on 19-1-2007 by chinawhite]